What happens if Raptor Hatchling gets taken by Hostage Taker

Asked by wesker767 6 years ago

Player one casts Raptor Hatchling leaving one Mountain open.Player two casts Hostage Taker taking my Raptor Hatchling and subsequently casts it. Player one then casts Dual Shot and targets the Hatchling activating its enrage ability. Does that damage that hits the Hatchling cause Player two to put a 3/3 on the field or Player one?

Tyrant-Thanatos says... Accepted answer #1

If Player 2 controls the Raptor Hatchling, Player 2 creates the token. Text on cards always refers to its controller unless it specifically says otherwise. Raptor Hatchling is telling its controller to create a token, not its owner.

December 11, 2017 6:06 p.m.

wesker767 says... #2

Tyrant-Thanatos Thank you for your input it helps a lot. I was hoping It would work like Otherworldly Outburst where I could cast it on a creature a opponent controls kill that creature and reap the benefits of getting a 3/2 Eldrazi Token.

December 11, 2017 6:26 p.m.

Yeah, in the case of Otherworldly Outburst it's telling "you", the reader of the card, to create the token, which again, refers to its controller, the caster of the spell. Similarly, if an opponent were to cast your Otherworldly Outburst, say from your graveyard via an effect, they would be the one creating the token.

December 11, 2017 6:31 p.m.

wesker767 says... #4

Tyrant-Thanatos Thanks dude, I am always to afraid to ask questions but it was not a bad experience this time because of you <3

December 11, 2017 6:37 p.m.

Neotrup says... #5

Because they left a Mountain up, Player 1 could also cast Dual Shot in response to the Hostage Taker targeting Raptor Hatchling. This would cause Player 1 to create the 3/3 Dinosaur token, and cause Hostage Taker's ability to fizzle as it's target is dead. Had they not left the Mountain up, they'd have to kill it on their turn, forcing the described outcome where Player 2 gets the 3/3 Dinosaur token.

December 11, 2017 8:29 p.m.

@Neotrup that scenario also assumes that player 1 had Dual Shot in their hand at the time Hostage Taker entered the battlefield. Had it instead been the card on top of their library that they'd draw on their next turn, then we'd be back to square one. You are of course correct though that, in the case that Player 1 does already have Dual Shot in hand, and the untapped mountain to cast it, they can respond by shotting the Raptor Hatchling before Hostage Taker's ability resolves.

December 11, 2017 8:40 p.m.

Neotrup says... #7

I took the mention of one mountain up and ran with it. Could have been a red-herring, but it seemed a route worth exploring. There are many ways for this to play out where you cannot kill your own Raptor Hatchling, but if you can, it is worth it.

December 11, 2017 9:32 p.m.

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