Visions of Brutality

Asked by VictorSilvertome 8 years ago

I have enchanted a Visions of Brutality on my opponent's Monastery Swiftspear. I cast an Arcbond on the Monastery Swiftspear. I activate my Crater Elementals ability to deal 4 damage to it.

Will the Monastery Swiftspears controller lose any life from Visions of Brutality?

pskinn01 says... #1

Yes, 4 life per creature/player hit. Because arcbond causes the swiftspear to deal the damage to each other creature and each player.

January 23, 2016 1:12 p.m. Edited.

The reason I ask is because I was thinking that Arcbond creates a delayed trigger, if I deal the 4 damage to the Monastery Swiftspear with 2 toughness, state based actions will check and put the Monastery Swiftspear and the Visions of Brutality in the graveyard. After state based actions check it will then put the trigger on the stack from Arcbond?

January 23, 2016 1:17 p.m.

pskinn01 says... #3

From the gatherer: The delayed triggered ability Arcbond creates will trigger even if the target creature is dealt lethal damage. For example, if a 3/3 creature is targeted by Arcbond and later in the turn it blocks a 7/7 creature, the 3/3 creature will deal 7 damage each other creature and each player.

And the ability will use the last known information about that creature before it left the battlefield. So if it had lifelink or deathtouch the damage dealt would be from a source that had those.

January 23, 2016 1:25 p.m. Edited.

I know this much, I didn't mean to put a question mark at the end of my last response.

The Visions of Brutality has another triggered ability on it rather than something like Lifelink and Deathtouch, which are keyword abilities.

January 23, 2016 1:28 p.m. Edited.

I'm not trying to argue, lol. I will assume that my janky combo works :D

January 23, 2016 1:43 p.m.

pskinn01 says... Accepted answer #6

sorry, I was wrong. There is no life loss, As the triggered ability is no longer on the creature. Sorry for the misinformation.

January 23, 2016 1:48 p.m. Edited.

Noooo! Lol

January 23, 2016 1:51 p.m.

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