Token Creation and Summoning Sickness
Asked by DaddyRabbit78 6 years ago
TLDR: Can creatures attack if they came into play during someone else's turn?
I don't know how familiar you guys are with the Magic simulation game "Forge", but I just had an interaction that seems inaccurate.
I have Ghave, Guru of Spores, Devoted Druid, and Cathars' Crusade in play. During my turn, this creates an infinite token creation combo with an "infinite" number of counters on them.
My issue is I did this during the End Step of the previous player's turn and during my Upkeep, they no longer had summoning sickness. I was able to swing with them during my turn and win.
I know the rules say:
302.6. A creature's activated ability with the tap symbol or the untap symbol in its activation cost can't be activated unless the creature has been under its controller's control continuously since his or her most recent turn began. A creature can't attack unless it has been under its controller's control continuously since his or her most recent turn began. This rule is informally called the "summoning sickness" rule.
I'm assuming "since his or her most recent turn began" could mean "stay alive until that player's next Upkeep"? I imagine that also keeps in the layman's rule of "it can't attack the turn it came into play".
Did the software get it wrong?
Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #2
So Colton apparently didn't read the question or got confused.
The software was correct. "since their most recent turn began" means exactly that. If the creature was on the battlefield when your most recent turn began, even if it just entered on the previous persons endstep, they can tap and/or attack. Creatures do not have to survive for a whole round. That is why flash creatures and instant speed token creation are powerful, you can dodge sorcery speed removal with them and still attack when your normally would have.
June 14, 2017 7:45 p.m.
Gidgetimer ah i read it too fast and thought he was saying the software would NOT let him attack for the win. i didnt think someone would actually complain about being able to attack earlier than expected and win. kinda figured he knew what he was doing, hence why he created creature tokens during his opponents end step to begin with.
colton815 says... #1
yes, the software got it wrong if it wouldnt let you attack. any creature of yours that comes into play during an opponents turn would be able to attack on your next turn.
June 14, 2017 6:52 p.m.