Riku of Two Reflections + Cloudstone Curio
Asked by murks 8 years ago
Assume I got Riku of Two Reflections on the battlefield along with Cloudstone Curio.
I now cast Grizzly Bears from my hand, copy it with Riku of Two Reflections's second ability. Is there a way to put all the actions in an order to the stack so that my Grizzly Bears TOKEN stays on the battlefield where I bounce the original Grizzly Bears due to Cloudstone Curio ?
Just to make it complete:
Will the above also work with Equilibrium ? As far as I get it I cast Grizzly Bears, pay 
to Equilibrium, don't let it resolve yet, copy my initial Grizzly Bears with Riku of Two Reflections and therefore let the Equilibrium's effect resolve bouncing any other creature (in this case Grizzly Bears) back to my hand.
The only difference to Cloudstone Curio would be the payment of and the fact I only get one trigger out of Equilibrium as the copy of Grizzly Bears is not "cast".
June 9, 2015 6:27 a.m.
Equilibrium works in a different way - it triggers upon casting a spell (the actual wording is "Whenever you cast a creature spell", as seen on Gatherer), so the triggered ability goes on the stack above your Bears, meaning they won't be in play when the ability resolves. That means the only creatures you can bounce are the ones already on the battlefield.
Understand how Equilibrium works: It puts it's ability on the stack, where nothing happens yet. Assuming nothing else happens, the ability resolves, where you get the chance to pay , and if you do, bounce a creature. You never get to pay and have the ability resolve later.
In addition, Riku only lets you copy the creature that triggered his ability (meaning the one you just cast), not any creature you had on the battlefield beforehand. Either way, in this scenario, Equilibrium's ability will always have to resolve before Riku's ability even triggers.
BlueScope says... Accepted answer #1
Sure, and it's easier than you might think. You can arrange the triggers of Riku and the Curio in any way you like, since you control both abilities. At this point, you can put the Curio on the stack, followed by Riku (which will resolve first) to create the token. At this point, Curio will trigger again, giving you another bounce ability. The stack will now have two instances of the bounce ability on the stack, and each one lets you bounce the original Bears.
June 9, 2015 5:20 a.m.