Quicken and miracles
Asked by Lurac 9 years ago
Let's say I'm playing an UW control deck and I'm up to 12 mana.Let's say I decide to play Quicken into Supreme Verdict on my opponent's turn, but when I cast Quicken and draw, I se Entreat the Angels on top. Can I, in response to the miracle trigger, cast Supreme Verdict with flash, then use the rest of my mana on EtA, netting me 5 angels with pseudo-haste, or do I have to cast the miracle as I draw it, making me choose between an army of angels and a boardwipe?
EtA = Entreat the Angels
This should be helpful:
702.93. Miracle
702.93a Miracle is a static ability linked to a triggered ability (see rule 603.10). Miracle [cost] means You may reveal this card from your hand as you draw it if its the first card youve drawn this turn. When you reveal this card this way, you may cast it by paying [cost] rather thanits mana cost.
702.93b If a player chooses to reveal a card using its miracle ability, he or she plays with that card revealed until that card leaves his or her hand, that ability resolves, or that ability otherwise leaves the stack.
Basically what lordoftheshadows was saying
April 15, 2015 9:11 a.m.
So 702.93b basically means that I have time to cast instants and fetch lands before i pay the cost for the miracle i drew? (being able to cast instants seldom matters, since they can be cast in response later - while the miracle spell is on the stack)
By the way: I suppose there is no way to play the turn's land before I cast a miracle in my draw phase. I still want this confirmed, though.
April 15, 2015 3:50 p.m.
filledelanuit says... Accepted answer #4
Lurac You are correct there is no way to play a land before you have to pay for the miracle cost.
The miracle trigger is kinda weird. Miracle triggers on the first card drawn each turn. You have to reveal it before you put it into your hand but once miracle triggers the card will be in your hand. We often leave it sitting on the table during tournaments to show that the trigger is on the stack but it is actually in the hand zone. After that you can fetch or cast instants before you have to pay the mana cost of the miracle.
Just a warning about Quicken. If you cast quicken and then miracle entreat and cast it, you will lose the quicken effect. This is because Quicken applies to the next sorcery spell cast even if you could have cast it as an instant without quicken, ex miracle.
April 15, 2015 4:02 p.m.
Just to clarify because your phrasing was a little weird, you'll lose out on Quicken's effect only if you do not cast a another sorcery before letting the miracle trigger resolve, thereby casting the miracle spell.
Also, there's is a way to play your land for the turn before you play a miracle spell, but only if something is making you skip your draw phase (Solitary Confinement), or lets you replace the draw you take during your draw step (Island Sanctuary or any dredge card), and you have an effect that lets you draw a card later during your main phase (lets say, Erebos, God of the Dead), but this is a corner case and is usually not going to be relevant.
April 15, 2015 5:37 p.m.
Also if you cast Atarka's Command in response to the trigger and select the option to put a card from your hand onto the battlefield.
April 15, 2015 7:58 p.m.
@Devonin: Atarka's Command doesn't let you play a land. It lets you put a land onto the battlefield. There's a big difference... nothing lets you play a land except during your own main phase while the stack is empty and you have priority. Plenty of things, such as Atarka's Command, can "cheat" a land onto the battlefield at instant speed without actually playing the land.
April 15, 2015 10:35 p.m.
Well, they were almost certainly asking because they wanted one more angel. That's a way to do it.
April 15, 2015 11:04 p.m.
Devonin Except paying 2 mana for Atarka's Command wouldn't net me more angels unless we count shenanigans with Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, Cabal Coffers or other multi-mana lands. :P Thank you all. I got the information I needed.
filledelanuit says... #1
I don't know what you mean by EtA (estimated time of arrival?) but here is how this goes.
You cast Quicken and draw Entreat which triggers miracle. That trigger is on the stack and you may now cast an instant or Supreme Verdict. If you choose to cast verdict you will wipe the board then your opponent will have the opportunity to respond. If they don't do anything the miracle trigger will resolve and you can cast entreat for the miracle cost.
You don't cast the miracle card as you cast it but as the trigger resolves.
April 15, 2015 7:36 a.m.