Question about creature tokens and graveyards

Asked by TheBipolarBisexual 6 years ago

Would creature tokens stay in the graveyard for a state based effect such as being on hold for Corpseweft or could I bring back a creature token in my graveyard with Sheoldred, Whispering One or would they stay there to give Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord +1/+1? It says they disappear when you gain priority again so I guess I'm wondering when priority takes place for my edh deck. It's based around token generation and sacking creatures so lots of thallids and creatures that create copies of themselves to flood the board so I can use bombs like Triumph of the Hordes very quickly

RazortoothMtg says... #1

Once a token leaves play, it almost instantly disappears. You gaining priority is whenever you get a chance to do anything, so no, you don't have a chance to do anything with them. The token is not an actual card, so it just ceases to exist and you cannot interact with it any longer.

March 30, 2018 1:42 p.m.

Neotrup says... Accepted answer #2

If a player would receive priority, first state based actions are checked, this is where tokens in graveyards disappear, second triggered abilities trigger, like Sheoldred, Whispering One's ability, third the player finally receives priority, so they can cast a spell or activate an ability like that of Corpseweft. As the token ceasing to exist is the first thing, you aren't really able to do anything with it.

Also important is that a token is not a card, that's really its biggest distinguishing characteristic. You'll notice that Corpseweft requires you to exile creature cards, Sheoldred returns a creature card, and Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord gets a power/toughness boost for creature cards in your graveyard. Even something that would work before state based actions are checked, like Necromantic Selection, won't work for two reasons, one it too says card, and two, if a token that's left the battlefield would change zones (even to return to the battlefield), it instead remains in it's current zone.

March 30, 2018 4:04 p.m.

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