Qeustions about the mechanics between Dying Wish and Whip of Erebos

Asked by GlissasTraitor 9 years ago

I plan on putting most of my creatures into the grave. Then I will pull Nightmare out using Whip of Erebos . What I want to do is attach Dying Wish to him and then swing in. After that, when he leaves the battlefield then Dying Wish should deal his damage again to the defending player. Is this correct? Im not really sure it can because of the way some of the text on these cards are worded. If this wont work then are there other cards like Dying Wish that will do something similar?

Epochalyptik says... #1

Dying Wish 's ability only triggers if the enchanted creature dies. Remember that "dies" means "is put into the graveyard from the battlefield." If Whip of Erebos 's delayed triggered ability exiles the creature, then that creature never dies because it never went to the graveyard. Dying Wish 's ability won't trigger.

September 13, 2014 5:44 p.m.

nighthawk101 says... Accepted answer #2

Almost, but not quite.

Whip of Erebos will exile Nightmare at the beginning of the next end step, or if it leaves the battlefield. Dying Wish reads "When enchanted creature dies, ..." Dies is shorthand for "is put into the graveyard from the battlefield." Since Nightmare will be exiled, Dying Wish will not trigger.

September 13, 2014 5:45 p.m.

GlissasTraitor says... #3

Then are there any cards that do the same as Dying Wish with the trigger effect of something like "when target creature leaves play?" Im seriously thinking of replacing Nightmare with It That Betrays and using a Fling . However I really wanted to stay mono-black.

September 13, 2014 5:55 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #4

Please remember to select an answer once someone addresses the rules portion of your question.

Gatherer doesn't return any useful Auras with text "leaves the battlefield."

September 13, 2014 6:05 p.m.

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