Panharmonicon Triggers with Tribute

Asked by Teh_Mammoth 3 years ago

With the new Sethron legendary I've been looking at minotaurs and the possibility of adding in Panharmonicon for a giggle.

To my knowledge (correct me if I'm wrong and the rest can be ignored), Panharmonicon can double the triggers of something entering (such as if Fanatic of Mogis etb's with Pan on the field, you get two etb triggers) but I'm unsure on how the Tribute on Oracle of Bones would work.

Would I get:

  1. One trigger for an opponent to put 2 counters on, then get to play 2 instants/soceries if tribute wasn't paid
  2. One trigger for an opponent to put 2 counters on, then get to play 1 instant/sorcery for each instance of tribute wasn't paid
  3. Neither of the above, which if so, can someone kindly explain the result

Tylord2894 says... #1

The Tribute ability isn't an ETB trigger. It is a replacement effect. All abilities that say "[This thing] enters as", "As [something] enters", or "[This thing] enters with" are all replacement effects. The reminder text for Tribute on Oracle of Bones states that the Tribute is made as the Oracle enters the battlefield. Because of this, Panharmonicon doesn't affect Tribute.

Hope this helps!!

July 10, 2020 6:28 p.m.

Teh_Mammoth says... #2

Woops, I was silly and missed that part by accident haha

Thanks very much for the clarification :)

July 11, 2020 5:46 a.m.

Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #3

Tylord2894 is technically correct in that Tribute isn't affected by Panharmonicon as Tribute is only the ability that allows your opponents to put counters on the creature as it enters. However; their answer misses the mark on what you asked a little as one of the possibilities you gave was "one tribute, two instants/sorceries" and that is what happens. Each card with Tribute also has an ETB if the tribute wasn't paid. Panharmonicon will double these triggers.

July 11, 2020 10:56 a.m.

Teh_Mammoth says... #4

Yes I think I could have worded a bit better, so that's partly on me as well.

Thank you for the extra input and clarification Gidgetimer :)

July 12, 2020 9:37 a.m.

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