Oloro + Crypt Rats + Lifelink

Asked by RupertPhd 7 years ago

Two questions.
Question 1: How many life-gain event triggers i get when a pestilence creature like Crypt Rats has lifelink and i use it's ability.
Scenario:
A two player game, Crypt Rats enchanted with Lifelink, and Oloro, Ageless Ascetic on the field. two other creatures on the field for a total of 4 creatures on the field, and two players, giving six targets. I pay to activate Crypt rats for one damage. I gain six life. But is this life a single life-gain event, or is it six separate life-gain events? I.e., how many times can I use oloro's ability to draw a card as a result of this lifelink crypt rats life gain event? One time or six times?
Question two:
When does Crypt rats die? can I pay and in response pay to give two separate activations of crypt rats? Does the second activation resolve or does crypt rats die first, preventing me from using its ability again?
Is the same ruling true for Thrashing Wumpus?: can I use thrashing wumpus to deal more than three damage to each creature or does it die before it deals the fourth damage?
thanks

merrowMania says... #1

For both the Rats and the Wumpus, there is only one lifegain event, so Oloro only triggers once.

June 9, 2016 5:06 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #2

Question 1: This is a single instance of lifegain, so Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's ability triggers only once.

Question 2: If you activate Crypt Rats's ability, then respond to that ability by activating the ability again, then nothing has resolve yet. You can continue to respond to Crypt Rats's ability. However, as soon as an instance of the ability resolves, Crypt Rats will be dealt damage and will die (unless something is buffing it, preventing the damage, or making it indestructible). After that point, you won't be able to activate the ability anymore, but any instances of the ability that are already on the stack will still resolve.

The same goes for Thrashing Wumpus.

June 9, 2016 5:14 p.m.

RupertPhd says... #3

Thanks for the help, i think we are almost there but I am still a little unclear.
Let's say Crypt Rats has Lifelink and I activate crypt rats ability once, and respond, and activate the ability again, the second time. That's it.
The second activation resolves, i have one life-gain event, and crypt rats dies. Then the first activation resolves, and deals one damage to every target. Do i get a second lifegain event?

June 9, 2016 6:16 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #4

Yes. Because Crypt Rats is no longer on the battlefield, the ability will use Crypt Rats's last known information (how it last existed on the battlefield) to determine the characteristics of the damage. Because Crypt Rats died when it had lifelink, its LKI will reflect that and the damage dealt will be lifelink damage.

June 9, 2016 6:41 p.m.

RupertPhd says... #5

Awesome, thanks.

June 9, 2016 7:07 p.m.

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