Non equipment equipments
Asked by The_Epic_Dog 4 years ago
If Do-It-Yourself Seraph becomes an equipment text box, can it equip? If it can, can it stiil attack?
There are a number of ways to turn Equipment into creatures in black-bordered Magic, so when we were playing with this card we followed Gidgetimer's quotes rule above.
However, we' re in silver-border territory here. So, if you were to have an Equipment that isn't a creature already be attached to a creature (such as by having Phoebe, Head of S.N.E.A.K. steal the text box of both Thassa, God of the Sea and Do-It-Yourself Seraph (and an Equipment via Seraph's ability either before or after Pheobe stole it)), and you control a Rules Lawyer when that equipment becomes a creature again, the state-based actions which cause the creature Equipment to detach from the equipped creature would not apply to those permanents, so you could have the Equipment also be a creature while it stays attached to the other creature and gives it the benefits. In that case, the Equipment creature would be able to tap and attack as a normal creature even while it's attached to the other creature which could also tap and attack as normal.
Rules Lawyer is hilarious, though also usually a bit of a nightmare for everybody involved in the game, including its controller. I'd recommend at least having a skim through the comprehensive rules on state-based actions if you plan on frunning it.
Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #1
According to the comprehensive rules an equipment that is also a creature can not equip a creature. Maro is the silver border rules manager he has made rulings that go against the comprehensive rules before to go with the spirit of the design, so it might be worth asking him on twitter.
301.5c An Equipment that’s also a creature can’t equip a creature. An Equipment that loses the subtype “Equipment” can’t equip a creature. An Equipment can’t equip itself. An Equipment that equips an illegal or nonexistent permanent becomes unattached from that permanent but remains on the battlefield. (This is a state-based action. See rule 704.) An Equipment can’t equip more than one creature. If a spell or ability would cause an Equipment to equip more than one creature, the Equipment’s controller chooses which creature it equips.
September 15, 2019 8:18 p.m.