Narset and Approach 2nd Sun
Asked by Samus_Saran 4 years ago
If i watch on EDHREC on Commander Narset, Enlightened Master there is standing very high on the List Approach of the Second Sun.
I was first impressed what a cool combo, but later i readed it that Approach of the Second Sun must be casted from the Hand to Win.
So its just Noobs playing this Card on this Commander or is there something I'm not seeing?
Rhadamanthus says... #2
To be fair, "do I understand this interaction correctly?" is a rules question.
March 19, 2020 11:03 a.m.
Rhadamanthus thats not actually what he asked though. he already stated he understood that there was no direct combo since Approach must be cast from the hand the 2nd time.
March 21, 2020 3:38 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #4
"So its just Noobs playing this Card on this Commander or is there something I'm not seeing?"
March 21, 2020 6:59 p.m.
Rhadamanthus: "something i'm not seeing" =/= "can the player still win by casting approach the 2nd time via narset".
March 21, 2020 11:49 p.m.
SquirrelPenguin says... #6
to quote the gatherer rulings for Approach of the Second Sun, 4/18/2017 A card that changes zones is considered a new object, so casting the same Approach of the Second Sun card on a later turn is “another spell” named Approach of the Second Sun. 4/18/2017 If you have fewer than six cards in your library, you’ll put Approach of the Second Sun on the bottom of your library. Otherwise, you’ll lift up the top six cards without looking at them and place Approach of the Second Sun just under them. 4/18/2017 The second Approach of the Second Sun that you cast must be cast from your hand, but first may have been cast from anywhere. 4/18/2017 A copy of a spell isn’t cast, so it won’t count as the first nor as the second Approach of the Second Sun. 4/18/2017 As your second Approach of the Second Sun resolves, it checks only whether the first one was cast, not whether the first one resolved. If your first Approach of the Second Sun was countered, you’ll still win the game as your second one resolves. 7/14/2017 Approach of the Second Sun has no effect until it’s resolving. If the second one you cast is countered, you won’t win the game.
March 24, 2020 12:39 p.m.
manbearpig90 says... #7
since this question has already been answered, be sure to select one so this can move to the "answered" portion of the Q and A
March 24, 2020 2:08 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #8
Samus_Saran: A correct answer to your question has been up for a while. I marked it as the "Accepted answer" so that this topic can move out of the list of unanswered questions. Please remember to take care of this yourself in the future.
Boza says... Accepted answer #1
This is not a rules question.
Regardless, to assist here - there is no combo between narset and approach, except that narset allows you to cast the first approach for free (the one that does not care if it was from the hand) and she helps dig into the deck to find it once it has been placed 7th from the top.
A Narset card that combines favorably with it is another card you should be playing in the deck - Narset's Reversal, which if creature Narset reveals both, you get to cast approach and return it to your hand for 0 mana. Since you commander is 6 mana, casting a 7 mana sorcery is not that farfetched.
Link to article detailing several ways to win with approach, including Narset
March 19, 2020 6:15 a.m.