Multiplayer Queen Marchesa EDH question.

Asked by wereotter 7 years ago

If I'm playing Queen Marchesa as my general in a multiplayer EDH game, if I'm eliminated before the game ends, does the monarch emblem cease to exist?

My understanding is that if a player is eliminated, all things they own are removed from the game, and all abilities are exiled from the stack. Considering the monarch emblem would likely enter the game under my control, I would be considered its owner, and would think it would disappear if I am out of the game, but not sure if emblems are treated differently.

merrowMania says... #1

Being the monarch is not an emblem, it is a designation. The Monarch 'token' is simply a physical reminder of the triggers of being the Monarch. Because of this, leaving the game does not remove the monarch designation from your game.

September 7, 2016 7:59 p.m.

BlueScope says... Accepted answer #2

In a Commander game, much like in a Conspiracy Limited game, no player is initially the monarch, or defines by the cards in their deck whether anyone could be the monarch (other than by abstraction).

If Marchesa is the only card in the game that could cause someone to be the monarch, this means that you will be the only one who can become the monarch by means other than attacking the monarch. In other words, unless you initialize the Game of Thrones, there won't be one. But this is the only way in which cards in your deck are related to how the Monarch works.

If you stay the monarch until you lose the game, the active player (or next player in turn order if you're the active player) will become the monarch.

716.4. If the monarch leaves the game, the active player becomes the monarch at the same time as that player leaves the game. If the leaving monarch is the active player, the next player in turn order becomes the monarch.

If someone else was the monarch when you lost the game, their monarchy won't be affected by you losing the game.

Basically, once you introduce the concept of the Monarch to the game, you won't be getting rid of it that easily.

September 8, 2016 2:17 a.m.

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