Mirrorwing Dragon as an Invalid Target

Asked by Aftertherevolution 7 years ago

I think I've got this, but just looking for some backing :)

Mirrorwing Dragon and enough werewolves are on the battlefield to make my opponent fight the legality of this move. I cast Waxing Moon on the dragon.

The act of casting this instant on the dragon creates the copies for all my other creatures, werewolves or not.

The spells begin to resolve, Mirrorwing Dragon's just fizzles but the rest with valid werewolf targets resolve normally.

Not that it matters much here, but trample won't resolve on the fizzled card, but will on all the others that properly resolve on valid targets.

Unfortunately, this doesn't work. You HAVE to target a Werewolf. If it said "transform target CREATURE," your idea would work.

Because Mirrorwing Dragon isn't a Werewolf, you can't target him in the first place with Waxing Moon.

February 23, 2017 11:37 a.m.

hyperlocke says... Accepted answer #2

The thing is this: The Dragon is not a Werewolf. You can't legally target it with Waxing Moon. It's not that it will fizzle, you literally can not cast it.

What will happen is this: You announce that you want to cast Waxing Moon. As part of the casting process, you declare the Dragon as target (actually, not sure if you can even do this). The game realizes you just attempted an illegal action and reverses it. The spell didn't get cast, the Dragon's ability doesn't trigger.

You will not get copies of the spell!

717.1. If a player takes an illegal action or starts to take an action but cant legally complete it, the entire action is reversed and any payments already made are canceled. No abilities trigger and no effects apply as a result of an undone action. If the action was casting a spell, the spell returns to the zone it came from. The player may also reverse any legal mana abilities activated while making the illegal play, unless mana from them or from any triggered mana abilities they triggered was spent on another mana ability that wasnt reversed. Players may not reverse actions that moved cards to a library, moved cards from a library to any zone other than the stack, caused a library to be shuffled, or caused cards from a library to be revealed.

February 23, 2017 11:45 a.m.

ah .. makes sense.

I had been looking at this http://tappedout.net/mtg-questions/how-do-instants-that-give-hexproof-work/

But see that it's b/c it was a valid target when cast, but not when it resolved.

And this too .. http://tappedout.net/mtg-questions/waxing-moon-with-zada/

But get it now .. ie. I can cast Waxing Moon without a target.

Well .. it wasn't central to the deck, just a nice bonus. :)

February 23, 2017 1:11 p.m.

wonder if there is any way to turn the dragon into a werewolf :)

February 23, 2017 1:12 p.m.

hyperlocke says... #5

February 24, 2017 11:30 a.m.

@hyperlocke ahh, I should mentioned I had a standard deck in mind :) But perhaps a commander deck some time.

February 25, 2017 10:34 p.m.

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