Master Tranmuter + Ugin's Nexus + Mirrorworks

Asked by Yawgmoth73 5 years ago

I saw a combo with Master Transmuter + Ugin's Nexus + Mirrorworks that supposedly gives infinite turns. But I don't really see how this works, in order to get the extra turn from the Nexus, it has to die, and if you use Mirrorworks to make a copy of it, you have to allow one to die, still leaving one in play which negates the extra turn from the one that died. You have to let the copy die so you can bounce the original with Transmuter. There does not seem to be a point where I retain priority from when the copy comes into play and when the copy gets sacked where I can bounce the original Nexus to my hand. Can someone please explain how this combo works, if it works?

Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #1

Since the transmuter is only one less mana than Ugin's Nexus I am assuming that it is simply being used as a repeatable bounce source, not as a discount. Did the place you saw the combo explicitly state that it was for infinite turns? If not, they could have meant that it was for infinite extra turns.

The way you would get infinite turns for is by paying for the Nexus, copying it, allowing the token to die and exiling it, then bouncing the Nexus back to your hand before the end of turn. The way Ugin's Nexus is worded says "If a player would begin an extra turn, that player skips that turn instead." This means that the prevention effect does not do anything to stop extra turns from being created, only from starting. So as long as it isn't on the field when you would start the turn, you can take the extra turn.

As a small point of terminology; though it is convenient to think of it as such, the legend rule doesn't cause you to "sacrifice" anything. For example you could put a creature equipped with Assault Suit into your graveyard because of the legend rule if you wanted.

February 17, 2019 8:45 a.m.

Kogarashi says... #2

I agree that the combo probably requires the cost, using Transmuter as a means of returning Ugin's Nexus to hand.

February 17, 2019 12:54 p.m.

Caerwyn says... #3

This question has been answered for a while, so I went ahead and marked an answer as accepted. In the future, please remember to hit the "Mark as Answer" button yourself once all your questions have been resolved, as this helps keep the Rules Q&A section clutter-free as well as allows future viewers to quickly identify the answer.

February 24, 2019 12:04 a.m.

CinnamonBlue says... #4

Activate Master Transmuter, returning Ugin's Nexus to your hand to put Ugin's Nexus into play from your hand. Pay 2 mana to copy it with Mirrorworks

July 18, 2019 8:44 p.m.

Gidgetimer says... #5

And then not take an extra turn because there is an Ugin's Nexus in play.

July 24, 2019 6:37 p.m.

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