Master Biomancer Questions

Asked by DemonDragonJ 5 years ago

I have two questions about Master Biomancer :

First, if a player controls both a Master Biomancer and a Doubling Season and then summons another creature, how many +1/+1 counters will that creature have as it enters the battlefield: two or four?

Second, if a players controls both a Master Biomancer and a Simic Ascendancy and then summons another creature, will any growth counters be put on the ascendancy?

Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #1

"Enters the battlefield" effects count as "putting a counter on a permanent". Therefore a creature would enter with 4 counters if Doubling Season were out and counters would be put on Simic Ascendency.

This is backed up by Gatherer rulings on each card.

10/1/2005 Doubling Season affects cards that “enter the battlefield with” a certain number of counters. Triskelion, for example, would enter the battlefield with six +1/+1 counters on it rather than three.

1/25/2019 An ability that triggers when counters are put on a permanent will trigger if that permanent somehow enters the battlefield with those counters.

January 26, 2019 9:22 a.m.

DemonDragonJ says... #2

Gidgetimer, thank you very much!

January 26, 2019 12:59 p.m.

pskinn01 says... #3

Just a head up. The creature would enter with 4, if biomancers power is at 2 and doubling season in play. Also, simic ascendancy would get 8 counters, as it sees 4 counters being put on a crrature, it tries to put 4 counters on itself, but doubling season will make it 8.

Creatures get bigger if biomancers power is bigger, of if you have multiple copies. I once Rite of Replication ed a biomancer with kicker. They each came in with 2 counters. So each other creature after that came in with 22 extra counters (4 x 5 +2 = 22).

January 27, 2019 11:43 p.m.

DemonDragonJ says... #4

I have another question; if a player controls a Master Biomancer and summons a Fathom Mage , will they draw two cards?

January 29, 2019 8:47 p.m.

pskinn01 says... #5

Yes, for same reason in the answer above. Any counters that enter with a permanent will trigger any abilities that look for counters being added. And fathom mage will trigger once for each counter added.

January 29, 2019 9:20 p.m.

DemonDragonJ says... #6

pskinn01, I suspected that, but I wished to be certain, since I have a deck that contains all of the cards that I have mentioned in this thread, so I need to be certain of how they interact with each other before I use that deck in an actual game.

January 29, 2019 11:18 p.m.

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