Interaction Between Strionic Resonator and Banishing Light?
Asked by BFG 9 years ago
So, say cast a Banishing Light , copy it with the Strionic Resonator and choose another copy, will both be exiled beneath banishing light or will one be gone permanently?
Ok that is what I thought. Same with Detention Sphere correct?
July 14, 2014 12:45 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... #3
Ah, now you asked one I am going to have to look up since it isn't a single ability with a duration defining effect. Give me a minute to check how exactly the second ability would work.
July 14, 2014 12:47 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... #5
Yes Detention Sphere
would function in a similar fashion, although the why behind it is a little different. Banishing Light
has an ability with a duration defining effect so it is a single ability that monitors Banishing Light
to determine when it ends, since both the original and the copy originated from the same Banishing Light they monitor the same one.
Detention Sphere
has a pair of linked abilities and as such is subject to:
607.3. If, within a pair of linked abilities, one ability refers to a single object as the exiled card, a card exiled with [this card], or a similar phrase, and the other ability has exiled multiple cards (usually because it was copied), the ability refers to each of the exiled cards.
July 14, 2014 1:01 a.m.
Named_Tawyny says... #6
No, Strionic Resonator only copies one triggered ability. A card exiled with the resonator copying the first Detention Sphere ability will be gone for good.
July 14, 2014 1:03 a.m.
Named_Tawyny says... #7
Wouldn't the ability be the resonator's and not the Sphere's though?
July 14, 2014 1:04 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... #8
Named_Tawyny
706.10b A copy of an ability has the same source as the original ability. If the ability refers to its source by name, the copy refers to that same object and not to any other object with the same name. The copy is considered to be the same ability by effects that count how many times that ability has resolved during the turn.
July 14, 2014 1:11 a.m.
Haha this is so confusing. I guess I haven't been playing long enough. A friend resonated a dsphere at last FNM and permanently rid the board of one specific card fROM the resonator's ability. I guess that was a misplay?...even with the judge call
July 14, 2014 1:13 a.m.
Named_Tawyny says... #11
If the Sphere leaves the battlefield before the first ability resolves, then the exiled card is gone for good, from what I understand.
Could you use the copy of the Sphere's first ability to target the sphere itself? Thus exiling both the Sphere and the original target permanently? Or would the Sphere exiling itself cause other headaches that I'm not thinking about?
July 14, 2014 1:19 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... #12
Sorry I have a tendency to over explain things. If allowed to resolve normally both Detention Sphere and Banishing Light will return both sets of exiled objects when they leave. (I'm being a bit precise in my wording here because there is a way to abuse Detention Sphere ) If one of the sets of objects was exiled permanently and there were no other interactions before both the copy and the normal D-Sphere ETBs resolved; then yes this ability was handled incorrectly regardless of what the FNM judge said. Some shops don't have actual DCI judges at FNM and even then judges do make mistakes.
July 14, 2014 1:22 a.m.
Named_Tawyny says... #13
Over-explanation is always better than under explaning. =)
July 14, 2014 1:24 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... #14
D-Sphere can't target itself "you may exile target nonland permanent not named Detention Sphere".
If you were to Naturalize
D-Sphere before the ETBs resolved you would put the LTB on the stack first, it would resolve doing nothing. Then the ETBs would resolve exiling the target permanents. There would then be no ability to bring them back and they would be gone forever.
July 14, 2014 1:29 a.m.
Named_Tawyny says... #15
Bleh. Of course. This is why I shouldn't type after a long day. sigh
July 14, 2014 1:32 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... #16
Gah I messed up a bit there in a way that would make it confusing the last paragraph should read:
If you were to Naturalize D-Sphere before the ETBs resolved you would put the LTB on the stack above the ETB, it would resolve doing nothing. Then the ETBs would resolve exiling the target permanents. There would then be no ability to bring them back and they would be gone forever.
Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #1
They are both exiled for the duration that banishing light is in play.
July 14, 2014 12:42 a.m.