If you give a Planeswalker indestructible, can it die from having all its loyalty counters removed?

Asked by supermill 9 years ago

If you use, for example, an Aegis Angel to make a planeswalker such as Ajani Vengeant indestructible, if you activate his ultimate while he is at 7 loyalty counters, will he still die? I need to know this, as it's been a topic of conversation when I play at school, because no one seems to know the answer. I need to know because one of my friends keeps trying to do this and he's pretty sure it works. Then again, he also used to think you could use Retraction Helix to pull cards out of his graveyard, so who knows?

KrosanTusker says... Accepted answer #1

This is similar to an indestructible creature having -1/-1 counters on them. If toughness/loyalty is zero, the creature/planeswalker in question is put into the graveyard as a state-based action, even if it is indestructible.

Note that an indestructible planeswalker still dies from Lightning Bolts and being attacked because the damage causes the removal of loyalty counters, which causes it to die. It would not, however, die to Hero's Downfall.

December 17, 2014 10:20 a.m.

supermill says... #2

Thanks @KrosanTusker that really cleared things up

December 17, 2014 10:22 a.m.

KrosanTusker says... #3

No worries!

December 17, 2014 10:25 a.m.

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