How would Curse of Vengeance and Lich's Mirror interact?
Asked by Shyuuga 7 years ago
I am thinking you could cast the curse on yourself, then when you lose, stack the triggers in a way to make it so you gain extra life and draw even more cards.
Okay, so lich's mirror doesn't trigger? It is just a static effect on the game? I understand it has a replacement effect but I thought that effect had to trigger and go on the stack. Both would trigger and because they are my triggers I can stack them how I want. This is just my thoughts and am trying to understand. Thank you for the help.
October 29, 2016 5:16 p.m.
KaiserTruesdale says... #3
The words that identify triggers are "when", "whenever", and "at". Lich's Mirror contains none of these words, therefore contains no trigger. As stated previously, Lich's Mirror has a replacement effect, which is indicated by the word "instead".
Replacement effects replace actions in the game, so these actions never occur. In the case of Lich's Mirror, no player actually loses the game (because something else happened instead) so Curse of Vengeance won't trigger.
October 29, 2016 5:29 p.m.
KaiserTruesdale says... #4
The words that identify triggers are "when", "whenever", and "at". Lich's Mirror contains none of these words, therefore contains no trigger. As stated previously, Lich's Mirror has a replacement effect, which is indicated by the word "instead".
Replacement effects replace actions in the game, so these actions never occur. In the case of Lich's Mirror, no player actually loses the game (because something else happened instead) so Curse of Vengeance won't trigger.
October 29, 2016 5:29 p.m.
Withengar Unbound
Flip's ability is an example of a card with an ability that triggers on a player losing the game. It will trigger, be put on the stack and could be arranged along with the other triggers.
Either way, if any triggers or permanents involved belong to the player that loses the game, those abilities will leave the game with them.
As a general addition to the topic of triggers - not all events use the stack, as spells and abilities normally do. Playing a land card, activating a mana ability, exiling a card with suspend or state-based actions (such as a player losing the game) don't use the stack and therefore can neither be arranged nor responded to.
BlueScope says... Accepted answer #1
Lich's Mirror has a replacement effect, which means the original event it replaces doesn't happen - in this case, you losing the game. Because of this, the Curse would never trigger and you would have to shuffle it into your library along with the rest of your permanents, with nothing else happening.
October 29, 2016 10:49 a.m.