How does the Zada, Hedron Grinder and Silverfur Partisan stack?

Asked by mickslash77 7 years ago

In my wolf deck my main combos are Zada, Hedron Grinder + Silverfur Partisan using spells such as Expedite for draw power and Rush of Adrenaline and Might of the Masses for power ups. I'm curious to how the stacking works because I read that Zada, Hedron Grinder copies first and then Silverfur Partisan triggers for token spam and then your spell resolves. Just hoping for a little more insight, thanks.

hharryhurley says... #1

It should work Zada creates one copy for each other creature and puts it on the stack, each copy on the stack is targeted and cast by Zada. The only reason the interaction wouldn't work is if silverfur specified that a player had to cast the spell, meaning spells that creatures, etc. cast would not trigger the ability.

June 1, 2016 8:40 p.m.

hharryhurley says... #2

also tokens created that turn when a spell is cast on Zada would not receive any buffs as the copied spells enter the stack before a token is made.

June 1, 2016 8:51 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #3

@hharryhurley: The copies are not cast. They're created on the stack. Also, the distinction that they're "targeted by Zada" is misleading. Zada, Hedron Grinder's ability just creates the copies. Who does the targeting (it's the player who controls those copies, not Zada) is irrelevant in this situation.

When you cast an instant or sorcery spell that targets only Zada, Hedron Grinder, Zada, Hedron Grinder's ability triggers. When this ability resolves, you create a copy of that spell for each other creature you control (at that moment) that the spell could target. Therefore, Zada, Hedron Grinder's ability has to resolve before you get any copies that could target Silverfur Partisan.

When the copies are created, Silverfur Partisan's ability triggers an appropriate number of times. When each of these abilities resolves, it creates a token.

Note that the tokens won't get any of their own copies of whatever spell Zada, Hedron Grinder's ability copied.

June 1, 2016 10:48 p.m.