How do Sunseed Nurturer and Crested Sunmare interact at the end of my turn?
Asked by vic 5 years ago
I'm hoping that I can create 5/5 horse tokens from the 2 life gained by the Nurturer each turn. Probably wishful thinking, but worth asking. It would be good to know the distinction between "end of turn" and "beginning of end step" for other purposes anyway.
Boza-
So they mean the same thing, huh? Interesting. I was expecting that "beginning of end step" would happen before "end of turn" because it would be the first thing that happens among any other end-of-turn events that may happen. Glad I asked.
November 16, 2018 6:55 a.m.
You can double-check the Gatherer or Scryfall to see the updated oracle text, where Sunseed Nurturer now says "at the beginning of your end step" to bring it in line with current templating. "End of turn" was just the older phrasing that meant "at the beginning of the end step."
November 16, 2018 8:27 a.m.
Slight clarification to Kogarashi's post, "End of Turn" is still used for effects that wear off when the turn ends, such as Abandon Reason's ability. These effects end during the cleanup step. I suspect they changed the Oracle Text because it was pretty confusing to have "end of turn" refer to two different steps, depending on whether you were dealing with a triggered ability or an effect wearing off.
Boza says... Accepted answer #1
No, you cannot.
Both cards have triggers that trigger at a specific time - the beginning of the end step. Both have conditions to see if they would trigger.
Nurturer checks and see that you control the large 5/5 horse and puts its trigger on the stack. At the exact same time, Crested Sunmare checks and sees you have not gained life (I assume nothing else gained you life this turn), so it never even triggers.
"End of turn" and "beginning of the end step" are the same, except written out differently, there are 10 years between the two cards, so the wording changed a bit.
November 16, 2018 6:25 a.m.