For the sake of my own sanity
Asked by -Orvos- 8 years ago
Does devoid make the color identity of a card colorless? For example could a Mist Intruder be in a green commander deck? I know it would be nearly impossible to play but this is just an example.
Raging_Squiggle says... #2
In terms of identifying the color of a card for commander/EDH purposes, devoid does nothing to alter the color identity.
While Devoid is a static characteristic-defining ability...
702.113a Devoid is a characteristic-defining ability. Devoid means This object is colorless. This ability functions everywhere, even outside the game. See rule 604.3.
...It does not affect the rules for putting it in a commander deck.
903.4. The Commander variant uses color identity to determine what cards can be in a deck with a certain commander. The color identity of a card is the color or colors of any mana symbols in that cards mana cost or rules text, plus any colors defined by its characteristic-defining abilities (see rule 604.3) or color indicator (see rule 204).
Note: the end part, the part underlined specifies any colors that are in a characteristic defining ability (See Pact of Negation), and not the lack of colors.
December 8, 2015 5:20 p.m.
Doesnt it saysomewhere in the rules though that if a card conflicts eith the rules do what the card says. Thats why its possible to have more than 4 of those one creatures in a deck that have that written on them? And devoid even says the card is colorless not the spell when cast
December 8, 2015 7:50 p.m.
Raging_Squiggle says... Accepted answer #4
It is implied, but in the sense of Commander rules, every symbol: 
that is found on the card itself count to the color identity. No rule or ability supersedes this.
December 8, 2015 8:08 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #5
@_-Orvos-_: Yes, there is a rule saying that, but it doesn't apply in this situation. Color identity is determined by mana symbols, color indicator symbols, and colors defined by characteristic-defining abilities. Devoid doesn't change mana or color indicator symbols, and it doesn't define a color (colorless isn't a color). This means it doesn't affect color identity.
December 9, 2015 12:59 p.m.
atomic_moose says... #6
Even if you convinced your playgroup to allow devoid cards to fit into mismatched decks, how would you cast them? A mono black edh deck cannot produce blue mana in any way, so you would be attempting to cheat them out with grave shenanigans etc.
December 9, 2015 7:27 p.m.
Like i said ot was an example. And a black deck would be the easiest way to do it. ;)
pskinn01 says... #1
No, the color of a card is only part of the color identity. The casting cost, and any color in the text (besides reminder text) are included in the color identity.
December 8, 2015 5:03 p.m.