Flip cards and Unhallowed Pact

Asked by Sinisterkid 8 years ago

if I enchant Ravenous Demon  Flip with Unhallowed Pact what happens when the creature is flipped? and what happens if I Unhallowed Pact the Archdemon of Greed??

pskinn01 says... #1

A transformed card never leaves the battlefield. So it will stay enchanted no matter which side it up.

Transforming a permanent doesn't affect any Auras or Equipment attached to that permanent. Similarly, any counters on the permanent will remain on that permanent after it transforms.

November 24, 2015 5:55 p.m.

Slycne says... Accepted answer #2

A transformed creature is still the same permanent when it flips. So a Ravenous Demon  Flip enchanted with a Unhallowed Pact continues to be enchanted when it flips.

  • 711.11. When a double-faced permanent transforms, it doesnt become a new object. Any effects that applied to that permanent will continue to apply to it after it transforms.

Unhallowed Pact triggers when the creature dies, ie is removed from the battlefield into the graveyard. Whenever a double-faced card is not on the battlefield it's always in the front face. So it will always return as Ravenous Demon  Flip whether it was flipped or not when it died.

  • 711.4a While a double-faced card is outside the game, in a zone other than the battlefield, or on the battlefield with its front face up, it has only the characteristics of its front face.
November 24, 2015 5:56 p.m. Edited.

Epochalyptik says... #3

Note that these cards are double-faced cards, which transform. They are not flip cards (e.g., Nezumi Graverobber), which flip. This is important for finding the appropriate rules.

November 24, 2015 6:12 p.m.

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