Double strike and deathtouch blocked by multiple creatures

Asked by BrennanH 3 years ago

So I had gotten my new commander Kathril, Aspect Warper out and all key words aside from first strike. When I got to attack with her, she was a 12/12 with indestructible, double strike, trample and death touch.

My friend blocked with 12 3/3 flying tokens. Would I have dealt any damage to him?

Also he thought they were 1/1 flyers and was saying that because he blocked the full damage of the first strike phase, my creator didn't get its normal striking phase and the only way it could have was if it had first strike in addition to its double strike.

Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #1

Yes, you dealt 12 damage to him. When assigning damage you must assign lethal damage to each creature in the damage assignment order before you can deal damage to the next creature or trample damage. Deathtouch makes any amount of damage lethal. A second combat damage step is created any time a creature with first strike or double strike is involved in combat. There is no difference if all, some, or none of the damage from the first combat damage step was blocked.

510.1c A blocked creature assigns its combat damage to the creatures blocking it. If no creatures are currently blocking it (if, for example, they were destroyed or removed from combat), it assigns no combat damage. If exactly one creature is blocking it, it assigns all its combat damage to that creature. If two or more creatures are blocking it, it assigns its combat damage to those creatures according to the damage assignment order announced for it. This may allow the blocked creature to divide its combat damage. However, it can’t assign combat damage to a creature that’s blocking it unless, when combat damage assignments are complete, each creature that precedes that blocking creature in its order is assigned lethal damage. When checking for assigned lethal damage, take into account damage already marked on the creature and damage from other creatures that’s being assigned during the same combat damage step, but not any abilities or effects that might change the amount of damage that’s actually dealt. An amount of damage that’s greater than a creature’s lethal damage may be assigned to it.

510.4. If at least one attacking or blocking creature has first strike (see rule 702.7) or double strike (see rule 702.4) as the combat damage step begins, the only creatures that assign combat damage in that step are those with first strike or double strike. After that step, instead of proceeding to the end of combat step, the phase gets a second combat damage step. The only creatures that assign combat damage in that step are the remaining attackers and blockers that had neither first strike nor double strike as the first combat damage step began, as well as the remaining attackers and blockers that currently have double strike. After that step, the phase proceeds to the end of combat step.

702.19b The controller of an attacking creature with trample first assigns damage to the creature(s) blocking it. Once all those blocking creatures are assigned lethal damage, any excess damage is assigned as its controller chooses among those blocking creatures and the player or planeswalker the creature is attacking. When checking for assigned lethal damage, take into account damage already marked on the creature and damage from other creatures that’s being assigned during the same combat damage step, but not any abilities or effects that might change the amount of damage that’s actually dealt. The attacking creature’s controller need not assign lethal damage to all those blocking creatures but in that case can’t assign any damage to the player or planeswalker it’s attacking.

702.19c If an attacking creature with trample is blocked, but there are no creatures blocking it when damage is assigned, all its damage is assigned to the player or planeswalker it’s attacking.

August 9, 2020 6:51 a.m.

BrennanH says... #2

Thank you for the clarification.

August 9, 2020 2:56 p.m.

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