Does Yarok triple or quadruple God-Eternal Rhonas?

Asked by Sledjer 4 years ago

So, God-Eternal Rhonas has an ETB effect to double the power of each other creature, and Yarok, the Desecrated makes that fire twice. Normally, I would say that obviously this means that God-Eternal Rhonas quadruples the power, because when something is doubled twice it is quadrupled. 122=4. However, Yarok, the Desecrated and Panharmonicon have rulings that if there are multiple of them, then their effect is additive and not multiplicative. Since quadrupling all your other creature's powers is pretty broken, I'm wondering if it is actually how it works.

Kogarashi says... Accepted answer #1

God-Eternal Rhonas 's two triggers will result in quadruple power.

The reason it's different from Yarok, the Desecrated and Panharmonicon 's rulings is because of the wording. Yarok and Panharmonicon each cause an ability to trigger "an additional time," or +1 time. Thus if you have a Yarok and two Panharmonicon on the battlefield, an ETB will trigger three additional times, for a total of four.

God-Eternal Rhonas , however, "doubles" the power of each other creature you control. Each time this trigger resolves, it will double the power of your creatures. So with Rhonas entering and Yarok on the battlefield, you get two Rhonas ETB triggers. The first one resolves, doubling your other creatures' power. Then the second one resolves, doubling the already doubled power.

If your only other creature is a 2/2, the first trigger makes it a 4/2, and the second trigger makes it an 8/2.

December 30, 2019 2:55 p.m.

TangoWithTojo says... #2

The interaction between Yarok, the Desecrated and Panharmonicon is additive.

Here's an easier example to understand it. If Baleful Strix were to enter the battlefield, you would draw 3 cards. Yarok doubles the original card draw trigger and then Panharmonicon adds another card draw trigger. They themselves are not triggered abilities but simply static abilities.

So in your case with God-Eternal Rhonas , Rhonas would double the power of all creatures, Yarok and Panharmonicon would create two separate doubling triggers to make a 4x multiplier of the double power. So if you had a 5/5 on the battlefield already, then Rhonas entered the battlefield, the 5/5 would become a 10/10, then a 40/40 after Yarok and Panharmonicon resolve.

Edit - Kogarashi apparently answered it before I finished typing...

December 30, 2019 3:11 p.m. Edited.

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