Does ((Sundial of the Infinite)) allow ((Oubliette)) to permanently phaseout commanders
Asked by Rejik 2 years ago
Will ((sundial of the Infinite)) or similar effect paired with the ((Oubliette)) leaving play keep a creature permanently phased out.
Slight correct, the phased out creature phases back in as part of Oubliette leaving play, it doesn't wait for state based actions to be checked. This means if a spell or ability is doing multiple things sequentially the creature returns during the resolution. Austere Command can destroy Oubliette then the creature it phased out.
Polaris says... Accepted answer #1
It depends on how the effect is worded. An "until this leaves the battlefield" effect can't be stopped with Sundial of the Infinite because it's not a trigger. The triggered ability of Oubliette is the part that phases the creature out. The rest is a static condition, just like the buff from Glorious Anthem . When Oubliette leaves the battlefield, the creature phases back in and gets tapped when state-based actions are checked, before players can respond with spells or abilities. A card like Oblivion Ring uses two triggers that can be responded to, which is why that particular card doesn't usually get reprinted in Standard sets. The updated wording gets around cheating the effect to disappear something forever.
There's a Gatherer ruling on Oubliette that also deals with this:
"If Oubliette leaves the battlefield before its triggered ability resolves, the target creature won’t be phased out or tapped."
June 27, 2021 8:34 p.m.