Does Remand let you go off with storm cards?
Asked by SwaggyMcSwagglepants 7 years ago
I believe this works but it sounds too good to be true.
If you remind the original copy of the storm card (e.g. Grapeshot) all the other copies will still go on the stack and resolve, right?
Then Remand basically reads double your storm if u can cast the spell again, which is gross.
Raging_Squiggle says... #2
Yes. Remand doesn't counter the storm trigger nor does it counter the copies which the trigger creates. It will essentially "bounce" your original Grapeshot spell back to your hand to cast again, and trigger the storm again.
March 23, 2017 1:24 p.m.
TheVectornaut says... #3
Here is the relevant ruling on storm: "502.30a Storm is a triggered ability that functions while the card is on the stack. 'Storm' means 'When you play this spell, put a copy of it onto the stack for each other spell that was played before it this turn. If the spell has any targets, you may choose new targets for any number of the copies.'"
When you play Grapeshot or another storm spell for the first time, storm triggers and puts the appropriate number of copies on the stack. Because copies must be countered individually, countering the original spell will not affect any of the copies. Therefore, you are free to Remand the original to your hand and cast it again for more copies. Questions about popular cards like Remand and Grapeshot come up often enough that it may be worth doing a quick google search to find answers before creating a new post. It's probably good practice in general.
March 23, 2017 1:31 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #4
But why search for an answer from some rando on the internet when you can get one from the perfectly good randos here on TappedOut? =P
Rhadamanthus says... Accepted answer #1
You can use double square brackets around a card's name to link it. It's the easiest way to make sure everyone reading your question understands what's going on: Remand, Grapeshot
Yes, that works. The Storm ability triggers when you first cast the spell, not when the spell actually starts resolving. Removing the Grapeshot from the stack doesn't do anything to interfere with the Storm trigger (this is why you usually need something like Mindbreak Trap or Flusterstorm to actually counter a Storm spell). The Storm trigger will use the last-known-information about Grapeshot to make its copies.
March 23, 2017 1:24 p.m.