Does Oona's Blackguard ALSO gain the discard effect for gaining Stinkdrinker Bandit +2/+1 counter?

Asked by Darkmoses 7 years ago

Let's say Oona's Blackguard is on the field. Then Stinkdriner Bandit is added the following turn. Stinkdrinker gains the +1/+1 counter and can trigger Oona's Blackguard discard effect.

Does Oona's Blackguard ALSO trigger the discard effect for gaining Stinkdrinker Bandit +2/+1 counter?

Card Text for reference Oona's BlackguardCreature Faerie Rogue

Flying

Each other Rogue creature you control enters the battlefield with an additional +1/+1 counter on it.

Whenever a creature you control with a +1/+1 counter on it deals combat damage to a player, that player discards a card.

Raging_Squiggle says... Accepted answer #1

Oona's Blackguard, Stinkdrinker Bandit

Please link the cards in your question.

I think I know what your asking, so here goes...

Stinkdrinker Bandit's ability does not grant a +2/+1 counter. It gives him a temporary +2/+1 buff which is not the same. When Stinkdrinker Bandit deals combat damage to a player, Oona's Blackguard will trigger one time because of the +1/+1 counter placed on the Stinkdrinker Bandit when it entered the battlefield.

If, in the event a +2/+1 counter was somehow placed on Stinkdrinker Bandit instead of a +1/+1 counter, Oona's Blackguard would not even trigger because the Bandit does not have a +1/+1 counter on it, rather a +2/+1 counter which is not the same.

If in the event that Stinkdrinker Bandit has multiple +1/+1 counters on it, Oona's Blackguard will still only trigger one time. It only checks to see if the creature has a +1/+1 counter on it, it doesn't care how many it has nor will it trigger as many times as the creature has +1/+1 counters.

September 20, 2016 11:19 a.m.

Darkmoses says... #2

By this logic the origin of the +1/+1 counter is irrelevant, so long as it is specifically a +1/+1 counter.

September 20, 2016 11:57 a.m.

Yes. The +1/+1 counter can come from any source, including an instant/sorcery, a planeswalker, or land. The discard ability from Oona's Blackguard doesn't care where the +1/+1 counter came from, so long as the creature dealing combat damage actually has one on it.

September 20, 2016 12:02 p.m.

Darkmoses says... #4

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September 20, 2016 12:16 p.m.

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