Does Brimaz flip Kytheon
Asked by Kjartan 8 years ago
My opponent attacks with Brimaz, King of Oreskos, and Kytheon, Hero of Akros, he gets a 1/1 cattie battie. But he's Kytheon wont flip because it was put into play already attacking, will it?
EddCrawley says... #3
Does it matter that Kytheon ability is worded in past tense, so altough you didn't declare the kittie as an attacker, the from the perspective of Kytheon's ability you did indeed attack with 2 other creatures.
I only mention this as abilities like Batallion specify that the creature must attack with 2 other creatures. not have attacked with 2 other creatures.
June 19, 2015 8:03 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... #4
It does not matter that it is past tense. Only creatures that were declared as attackers "attacked". The ability triggers at the end of combat to avoid some weird rule situations with a non-creature Planeswalker attacking.
June 19, 2015 9:11 a.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #6
For those who want to see it:
508.4. If a creature is put onto the battlefield attacking, its controller chooses which defending player or which planeswalker a defending player controls it's attacking as it enters the battlefield (unless the effect that put it onto the battlefield specifies what it's attacking). Such creatures are "attacking" but, for the purposes of trigger events and effects, they never "attacked."
BlueScope says... Accepted answer #1
Indeed, Kytheon will not flip because of the token created by Brimaz alone, because the token was never declared attacking.
From Brimaz' Gatherer Rulings:
Although the tokens enter the battlefield attacking or blocking, they were never declared as attacking or blocking creatures. Abilities that trigger whenever a creature attacks or blocks wont trigger.
June 19, 2015 5:03 a.m.