Does Bond of Agony and exquisite blood become a instant win?

Asked by SagetheForge 8 years ago

Basically with Bond of Agonyyou pay life for every opponet to loose life. Exquisite Blood triggers, you gain back that lost life. Could you say, use 40 life to kill everyone and gain back that same 40 life.

Raz0r_ says... #1

It becomes an instant loss. The effect listed first on the card is the first effect that resolves. You lose 40 life before they all lose 40 life. You lose, and the rest of the spell does not resolve, therefore Exquisite Blood will not trigger, as you have lost the game.

February 21, 2016 12:08 p.m.

SagetheForge says... #2

Then you can choose any life lower than 40.

February 21, 2016 12:11 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #3

It depends.

You pay life as an additional cost to cast Bond of Agony (note that you still have to pay in mana as well). If you pay all of your life, you'll lose the game as a state-based action after the casting process is complete. Bond of Agony won't get to resolve.

If, however, you have more life than your opponents, and you choose to pay an amount of life that will leave you alive and kill your opponents, you will just kill your opponents and the game will end before Exquisite Blood's ability is put onto the stack.

Having Exquisite Blood only matters if you're paying some amount of life that would leave both you and another player still alive after Bond of Agony resolves. In that case, you will gain life from each of Exquisite Blood's triggers (if there are more than one).

February 21, 2016 12:12 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #4

@Raz0r_: That's incorrect for two reasons.

First, you pay life as a cost to cast Bond of Agony. It is not an effect.

Second, state-based actions do not check while something is resolving. If you had a spell that cause you to lose life during its resolution, then caused other players to lose life later in the resolution, any players with 0 or less life will lose the game after the resolution process, not in the middle of it.

February 21, 2016 12:14 p.m.

Raz0r_ says... #5

I mean if you all have the same life total at the casting time.But, it does depend, I thought too much about it...

February 21, 2016 2:44 p.m.

shinobigarth says... #6

long story short, those 2 cards don't combo.

February 21, 2016 5:06 p.m.

Aztraeuz says... #7

Exquisite Blood + Sanguine Bond could be what you're looking for.

Exsanguinate is a better card than Bond of Agony. It costs you an extra for the added benefit of not costing you any life.

February 21, 2016 11:58 p.m.

shinobigarth says... #8

and Exsanguinate combos with either, though only Sanguine Bond matters for killing them.

February 22, 2016 12:06 a.m.

Aztraeuz says... #9

Exsanguinate also has the added benefit of only hitting your opponents. Very helpful in games like Two Headed Giant and Emperor.

Bond of Agony will hit your Allies which could be bad if you don't eliminate all of your opponents at once.

Exquisite Blood + Sanguine Bond is still better as it goes infinite. Exsanguinate + Sanguine Bond only allows the kill of one opponent. Unless of course you cast Exsanguinate for lethal damage which means you don't need any other card.

February 22, 2016 12:25 a.m.

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