dance of the skywise and elusive spellfist interaction ?

Asked by Type40 9 years ago

is this correct ?

Wouldn't elusive spellfist get +1/+0 and can't be blocked this turn if dance of the skywise was played on it ?

So the spellfist is in play, and some one casts (but not yet resolves) the skywise. Next elusive spellfists ability triggers and is put on the stack with an earlier timestamp. Than, assuming there are no responses, the spellfist gets +1/+0 and can't be blocked this turn (not an ability but an attribute that changes game rules, as this does not say something like "the creature GAINS ellusive spell fist can't be blocked") as per its trigger. Next, the skywise resolves, on layer 4 it becomes a Dragon Illusion on layer 5 it becomes blue (again), than layer 6 the abilities are removed (aka "when ever you cast a noncreature spell, elusive spellfist gets +1/+0 until end of turn and can't be blocked this turn." goes away.) and it also gains flying. Than on layer 7b ellusive sky fist becomes a 4/4. Than finally on layer 7c it gains +1. Thus, you have an unblockable flying 5/4 ellusive skyfist. Or am I wrong ?(still learning the layer system)

Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #1

Please link all cards in your question.
Elusive Spellfist
Dance of the Skywise

This is what happens:

1. You cast Dance of the Skywise targeting Elusive Spellfist. Elusive Spellfist's ability triggers.
2. Elusive Spellfist's ability is put onto the stack above Dance of the Skywise.
3. Elusive Spellfist's ability resolves, making Elusive Spellfist a [2/3 that can't be blocked] until end of turn.
4. Dance of the Skywise resolves, making Elusive Spellfist a base 4/4 with no abilities that gains flying. The end result is a 5/4 with flying that can't be blocked.

The until-EOT effect of Elusive Spellfist is still relevant because P/T-setting effects are applied in layer 7b, P/T-modifying effects apply in 7c, and "can't be blocked" is not an ability transferred to Elusive Spellfist. The ability merely states that Elusive Spellfist can't be blocked, so that's simply true about the creature until the end of the turn.

Note also that "earlier timestamp" means the older of the two things; timestamps reflect the order in which effects were created. Timestamps are also only relevant when working within the same layer; if multiple effects are applied in different layers, then the layer order, not the effect timestamp, is what matters.

March 24, 2015 5:50 p.m.

Type40 says... #2

Thanks, sorry about not linking my cards. :). Your response was super helpful and researching this was a great learning experience for me.

March 24, 2015 6:19 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #3

In the future, please remember to select an answer in order to remove your question from the active queue.

March 24, 2015 6:40 p.m.