Convoke in an Eldrazi Deck (Phase 1/2)

Asked by quinhowell91 3 years ago

Okay. Here's the simple of it. I have eight Eldrazi Spawn. In my Main Phase 1, I cast Obelisk of Urd using six of the Tokens to pay for the Convoke cost, tapping them. Attack Phase is skipped. In my Main Phase 2, can I sacrifice all eight tokens to summon Artisan of Kozilek, since Main Phase 1 completed the casting of Obelisk of Urd? I have no other land in this scenario, this is specific to the Tokens, Convoke, and casting.

quinhowell91 says... #1

Oops. Meant to put NINE tokens, not eight. Also, the Token redirect goes to a deck, not the Token. Oh well. The Token states "Sacrifice this creature: Add One Colorless Mana to your Mana Pool"

September 7, 2020 2:57 p.m.

magnachronus says... #2

You should be able to, since them being tapped for convoke doesn't prevent you from sacrificing them to their own mana ability.

September 7, 2020 3:46 p.m.

Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #3

I feel like their is another underlying problem with your understanding with the way you are describing things. But yes you could cast Obelisk of Urd using convoke on your first main phase and cast Artisan of Kozilek on your second. You can cast both in the same main phase if you wanted to as well.

September 7, 2020 8:03 p.m.

ghostmode says... #4

Right, you can simply cast both spells in the same phase. There is no reason I see that you can't do that, given the information you have provided. If you prefer to cast the other spell postcombat, seems fine too but it does give the opponent an opportunity to target your Eldrazi Spawn during the combat phase with removal which may force you to sacrifice them or let them die during that phase, and then the mana will empty from your mana pool as you move to the postcombat main phase. If you have the Spawn required to cast Artisan of Kozilek, and you are on your first main phase, if casting Artisan is your plan for the turn then I would just get it done with ASAP to leave as little chance of the opponents catching you at a vulnerable moment and disrupting your plan. There are certain situations to cast spells postcombat, but unless you are specifically keeping that mana available to respond to threats of bluff threats during your attack phase, I wouldn't risk giving the opponent the chance to sever your manabase and disrupt your plan. If they remove the Artisan from play, they will just as easily remove it postcombat main as precombat main.

For instance, if they don't like the look of that Obelisk, and decide to try to sever your mana base by sweeping the entire board and they are somehow able to do it on your turn, if you are still in your precombat main phase, you can respond to their removal spell by sacrificing all of the Spawn to generate mana. After the removal spell resolves, your mana will still be floating in your mana pool unspent, and nobody can stop you from using it to cast Artisan. IF they did this during combat, you'd be boned.

September 9, 2020 2:37 a.m.

Caerwyn says... #5

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September 12, 2020 12:35 a.m.

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