EDH Conspiracy Help
Asked by ERoss8 6 years ago
I'm confused about certain cards in Conspiracy and Conspiracy: Take the Crown that reference drafting cards, like Caller of the Untamed or Arcane Savant or even Noble Banneret . Are they legal, and if so, how do they work?
Note: it says on the gatherer that they are, but I'm not sure how they would work
It's really up to your play group. Like it'd be easy to decide based on what your play group says.
For example, I wouldn't want you to sideboard Arcane Savant and sideboard something like Bribery or Cryptic Command.
July 27, 2017 1:17 a.m.
Also just the fact that it's a direct way to call in Turnabout which can go infinite with Arcane Savant.
July 27, 2017 2:01 a.m.
alistairetheblu says... #4
I wanted to add that for cards like this, they have a different template, meaning they have some effect referencing a draft and that part of them doesn't work outside it. An example of why these can't be used would be Pyretic Hunter, which you could then claim you'd drafted it 15th, making it a 15/15 menace for 5. But even realistically, how would you verify whatever number they chose?
That template is also the same as the conspiracy type of cards, like Weight Advantage and those cards are not allowed outside the conspiracy draft. So while gatherer site says Regicide etc are legal, anything you can't verify, can't be used. And then those cards with that template follow that logic.
And that's the biggest takeaway: the template will tell you if you should be considering using it or not. Conspiracy template= don't bother.
There are cards from the conspiracy sets that do work and those don't have the special template. I found out in mtgo that the "monarch" and "vote" mechanics work in normal games after having it played against me then verifying in the comprehensive rules. So cards like Jeering Homunculus, Skyline Despot, Illusion of Choice, Selvala's Stampede...those last 2 could be a pretty good combo.
October 2, 2017 6:37 p.m.
alistairetheblu says... #5
One thing, while I said "conspiracy template" means don't bother... the cards are still legal.
It might be a desperation move, but you could use and benefit from Smuggler Captain in an Admiral Beckett Brass EDH if you run out of other pirates to use (and despite Ixalan there's still not that many, for EDH purposes).
(Also another reason why the "draft" text should be ignored, she'd be another tutor--and a bounceable one--if you allowed that).
DrukenReaps says... Accepted answer #1
You can use them but simply put they don't work.
Each of these has an effect referencing a drafted card but in a commander game no card was drafted so by official rules you can't get a token out of Caller of the Untamed and cant get a spell out of Arcane Savant.
If you really want to use these then talk with your playgroup. Personally I would say that the cards can exile a sideboard card at the start of the game. If you don't have a regular group I wouldn't bother.
July 27, 2017 12:48 a.m.