Characteristics of an ability's source change - how does that work with Protection?

Asked by Emzed 4 years ago

Hi! Say I control Grip of Chaos , Avatar of Woe and Mirran Crusader . I then activate the Avatar targetting itself, triggering Grip of Chaos, and respond to that with Cytoshape to turn Avatar into a Mirran Crusader (Grip could change Cytoshape's target but let's assume it doesn't). Now what happens to the Avatar activation? Is that still considered black because it was originally created by a black source, and can therefore target neither of the pro black Mirran Crusaders?

dragonstryke58 says... Accepted answer #1

608.2g If an effect requires information from the game (such as the number of creatures on the battlefield), the answer is determined only once, when the effect is applied. If the effect requires information from a specific object, including the source of the ability itself, the effect uses the current information of that object if it’s in the public zone it was expected to be in; if it’s no longer in that zone, or if the effect has moved it from a public zone to a hidden zone, the effect uses the object’s last known information. See rule 112.7a. If an ability states that an object does something, it’s the object as it exists—or as it most recently existed—that does it, not the ability.

The effect of Avatar of Woe will go through. Since the Avatar still exists on the battlefield (it did not change zones), the object's current information is used. In this case during the resolution of the effect, it will determine that the source of Avatar of Woe now Mirran Crusader 's ability is white.

May 6, 2019 9:11 p.m.