Chandra Heart of Fire
Asked by Thewrecked6955 3 years ago
Im needing help understanding how Chandra's plus 1 ability works. It reads, "Discard your hand, then exile the top three cards of your library. Until end of turn, you may play cards exiled this way". The part that i get hung up on is when this ability is used the 2nd time and so on. Cards that have been previously exiled but not cast due to lack of mana or other reasons, what happens to them? Are they included in the text "cards exiled this way"?
DragonSliver9001 says... #2
If you dont cast those spells in the same turn, you lose your chance
September 17, 2020 5:17 p.m.
PhotogenicParasympathetic says... #3
If you plus Chandra, Heart of Fire you discard your hand, then exile three cards. You can cast those cards until the end of the turn.
Once you end your turn, any/all cards exiled by Chandra that you have not yet cast, will remain exiled, and you will have lost your chance to cast them.
If you activate her a second time, on your next turn, you will get a fresh 3 cards exiled, but you will not be able to cast the previous cards; "exiled this way" in this case refers to the specific activation of Chandra, not to her +1 ability in general.
September 17, 2020 5:23 p.m.
PhotogenicParasympathetic says... #4
Compare the wording of Chandra's ability to cards like Etrata, the Silencer and Karn, Scion of Urza, which DO care about cards exiled previously. Etrata and Karn place counters with their abilities, so that they can refer to the counters the ability creates when using those cards later.
September 17, 2020 5:27 p.m.
Thewrecked6955 says... #5
Thank you for your help with this planeswalker. I feel like the wording for that ability is still loose as it refers to cards in general rather than the three specific cards you just exiled using this ability. You would think it would say something along the lines of, "you may play these cards on this turn". Rather than refer to cards generally that have been exiled using this ability. Are there any other examples that help explain that the cards previously exiled in other turns are exempt from the play rule?
September 17, 2020 5:46 p.m.
dragonstryke58 says... Accepted answer #6
I think a better example to contrast the ability of Chandra, Heart of Fire would be Thief of Sanity.
Each card exiled by the abilities of both Chandra, Heart of Fire and Thief of Sanity contain a time duration in their effects that stipulate when you can use the effect. In the case of Chandra, Heart of Fire, the duration is "until end of turn". For Thief of Sanity, the duration is "for as long as this card remains exiled".
The part you are confusing is that "you may play cards exiled this way" means that exact instance of the effect. It is similar to how the effects of permanents that name themselves mean this specific permanent and not all permanents with the same name.
September 17, 2020 7:02 p.m.
Thewrecked6955 says... #7
I understand the ruling for this ability now. Your explanation put it the best way that i could accept it. I get that your only provided the cards in the turn this ability is used and not cards from other turns. Quite sad, the wording really seemed to make it as if it refers to any cards that were exiled with the ability limiting their use to the turns you use said ability.
DragonSliver9001 says... #1
Link the soecific chandra...
September 17, 2020 5:14 p.m.