Champion of the Parish multiple triggers?
Asked by chungmeister 3 years ago
Say I have Champion of the Parish and Hardened Scales on the board. I have a total of 4 devotion to white including the 1 from Champion of the Parish. Now, say I cast Reverent Hoplite which triggers a total of 4 white human soldier tokens to enter the battlefield. Are each of the 4 tokens considered a separate trigger for Champion of the Parish? If so does that mean that Hardened Scales also triggers for each of the 4 counters meaning that Champion of the Parish receives a total of 8 counters?
chungmeister says... #2
Rhadamanthus so when a creature is cast and has a devotion effect that states "enters the battlefield" like Reverent Hoplite then the symbols in their mana cost are counted towards the devotion that triggers in their effect?
June 8, 2020 4:20 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #3
Yes, a permanent with a "when [this] enters the battlefield" trigger will count itself if that trigger uses information about what's on the battlefield to determine the size of the effect (unless it specifically says it counts "other" things like Goldnight Redeemer, etc.).
June 8, 2020 4:48 p.m.
TonyStark9001 says... #4
i think its important to point out that ETB's and cast triggers are not the same thing. based on how you worded your question and responses it almost seems like you thought Reverent Hoplite has a cast trigger.
June 13, 2020 6:33 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #5
chungmeister: Since answers to this question have been up for a while and there don't seem to be any follow-ups or corrections to be made, I've chosen a response to mark as the "Accepted answer" so that this topic can move out of the list of unanswered questions. In the future, you can take care of this yourself by using the green "Mark as Answer" button after you feel you've gotten an acceptable response to your question.
I try to avoid choosing my own responses when I do this, but in this case it was the only option.
Rhadamanthus says... Accepted answer #1
Yes, Champion of the Parish will trigger separately for each human entering the battlefield and the replacement effect from Hardened Scales will apply to each trigger.
The Champion actually gets 12 counters in this example. Reverent Hoplite is itself a human, and because it's on the battlefield when it triggers that means your devotion to white is 5, meaning a total of 6 humans enter the battlefield (Hoplite + 5 tokens).
June 7, 2020 9:52 p.m.