Cards Changing zones
Asked by Lenax 4 years ago
A long time ago I had a neat combo I thought. It used Crypt Rats + Scythe of the Wretched while Lethal Vapors is in play. I'd deal enough damage to destroy my rats and put them into what I though was a cycle of death and rebirth until I removed the Lethal Vapors. I read that cards moving become new objects. That would mean that the second time the rats come in they would die as per the vapors, but I wouldn't have the scythe trigger as the rats are not the same as before.
Did I get that right?
Thought so =/
A Fix: Introduce Pandemonium . The Crypt Rats hit play, trigger both Lethal Vapors and Pandemonium , Crypt Rats ping themselves 1, then Lethal Vapors goes off. With just one additional creature of power > 0, infinite death and rebirth + damage wherever?
August 6, 2019 11:23 a.m.
You will get infinite death and rebirth, but you will not get infinite "damage wherever" - Pandemonium only has one target, and you'll be using the Crypt Rats ' Pandemonium trigger to target Crypt Rats itself.
So, if you want to abuse this, you'll need a card like Panharmonicon to double the Pandemonium triggers, a second copy of Pandemonium , or a different card to abuse the infinite resurrection loop.
Caerwyn says... Accepted answer #1
That is correct, unless you somehow manage to make the rat deal damage to itself each time it enters the battlefield.
Without additional enablers what would happen would be:
Creature A, equipped with Scythe of the Wretched would deal damage to Crypt Rats .
Crypt Rats dies. Scythe Triggers.
Scythe's ability resolves and Crypt Rats are brought back; Scythe attaches to it.
Lethal Vapors triggers.
For you to continue the combo, you would have to have Crypt Rats deal damage to itself while Vapors' trigger is on the stack.
Vapors resolves, Crypt Rats dies. It is no longer the same rat that was previously dealt damage, so Scythe does not trigger.
August 6, 2019 9:05 a.m.