can you order the stack so Ezuri, Claw of Progress girst ability triggers before Master Biomancer

Asked by Charlie791 5 years ago

I'm asking this because eventually I might make a commander deck with Ezuri at the helm.

Neotrup says... Accepted answer #1

Master Biomancer has a replacement effect that alters how creatures enter the battlefield. This means there isn't any moment when the creature is on the battlefiled without counters.

Ezuri, Claw of Progress has a triggered ability that triggers once a creature has entered the battlefield. As such creatures will already have counters from Master Biomancer before Ezuri, Claw of Progress checks to see if it triggers.

In short, no, those cards interact unfavorably.

As for how Ezuri, Claw of Progress's first ability interacts with the stack, once it triggers, it will give you an experience counter regardless of whether the creature still has power 2 or less. This means if you play a creature and it enters with power 2 or less, your opponent won't be able to use something like Giant Growth to try to stop you getting a counter.

August 20, 2018 12:03 a.m.

Gidgetimer says... #2

Multiple things can trigger at the same time, and their controller can decide what order to put them on the stack. So if you had a Sigil Captain and Ezuri, Claw of Progress then you could order the resolution of the abilities however you want. It doesn't matter for Ezuri, since he does not have an intervening if clause like Sigil Captain does, but you can order them how you like.

However; that isn't what is going on here. Ezuri does indeed have a triggered ability (usualy denoted by starting with when, whenever, or at). Master Biomancer has a replacement effect (614.1 covers the templating to identify these types of effects). Replacement effects do not use the stack and replace one event with another. If you have Master Biomancer in play and play Llanowar Elves instead of entering with no counters on it, as is normal, it enters with two counters on it. It will not trigger Ezuri because a 3/3 entered. Even though there may be a time in the physical representation of the game that Llanowar Elves is on the table and you have not yet put the counters on, in the timeline of the game it had those counters on when it entered and you are just catching up to representing the board state.

August 20, 2018 12:10 a.m.

Gidgetimer says... #3

And ninja-ed because I am long winded lol.

August 20, 2018 12:11 a.m.

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