Can I include an artifact land that doesn't have my commander's color identity?
Asked by the5ervant 8 years ago
I just stumbled across this rule:
903.5d A card with a basic land type may be included in a Commander deck only if each color of mana it could produce is included in the commander's color identity.
I'm building a Muzzio, Visionary Architect deck. Can I include the non-blue artifact lands and just have them produce colorless mana?
- 903.5d A card with a basic land type may be included in a Commander deck only if each color of mana it could produce is included in the commander's color identity.
The key word is each. Something like Great Furnace still can produce Red which is outside Muzzio, Visionary Architect color identity.
December 15, 2015 11:11 a.m.
the5ervant says... #3
I guess my question is actually, do artifact lands have basic land types?
December 15, 2015 11:20 a.m.
They do not, but they do tap for whatever mana they say so. So you can run a Seat of the Synod in a Blue commander deck, but not a red one.
December 15, 2015 11:22 a.m.
Note that no lands with the Artifact type have basic land types (Plains, Mountain, Island, Swamp or Forest). The rule you and Slycne are quoting is about cards like Leechridden Swamp, which don't include the 
symbol in their rules text, but gain the ability to produce black mana from the basic land type.
Instead, the color identity rule itself tells you what you need to know: If a card has 
on it like Great Furnace does, you may only play it with a Commander of red color identity (possibly among other colors).
December 15, 2015 11:26 a.m.
Actually, because of it's last ability, Leechridden Swamp is the worst possible example. Consider Blood Crypt instead...
December 15, 2015 11:35 a.m.
the5ervant says... #7
I was thinking as long as it wasn't a "basic" land, if anything produced mana outside of your generals' colors, it became colorless mana.
903.9. If mana would be added to a players mana pool of a color that isnt in the color identity of that players commander, that amount of colorless mana is added to that players mana pool instead.
December 15, 2015 noon
Rhadamanthus says... #8
All lands without basic types are covered by the following rules. As such, a land like Great Furnace or Tree of Tales can't be included in a Muzzio, Visionary Architect commander deck.
903.4. The Commander variant uses color identity to determine what cards can be in a deck with a certain commander. The color identity of a card is the color or colors of any mana symbols in that card's mana cost or rules text, plus any colors defined by its characteristic-defining abilities (see rule 604.3) or color indicator (see rule 204).
903.5c A card can be included in a Commander deck only if every color in its color identity is also found in the color identity of the deck's commander.
December 15, 2015 12:05 p.m.
That's true, but that applies to cards such as Wild Growth (that another player enchanted your land with) that can produce a certain color outside of your commander's color identity. It doesn't mean that you can include any land and just get colorless mana instead of what they would produce.
December 15, 2015 12:10 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #10
In general, if any spell or ability would attempt to add mana to your mana pool of a color outside your commander's color identity, it adds colorless mana instead.
This does not mean you can include cards in your deck that are outside of your commander's color identity. Rather, it only means that if, for whatever reason, an effect would attempt to give you off-color mana during the game, it doesn't.
All cards in your deck must be within your commander's color identity.
Phaetion says... #1
No. The only artifact lands you can run in Muzzio are Seat of the Synod and Darksteel Citadel.
December 15, 2015 11:08 a.m.