Can I get attacked during my attack step?
Asked by BroadScholar 6 years ago
So if I enchant my Zedruu the Greathearted with Invocation of Saint Traft and then give an opponent control of the enhantment, when I attack with her my opponent will get a tapped 4/4 angel. But it isn't attacking me, correct? Even though the aura specifies tapped and attacking, we ignore the second part because a creature cant attack except on its controllers attack step? Just trying to make sure I understand the 'why' in addition to the interaction itself. Any help on this would be much appreciated. Thanks
As Blard stated, you create the Angel token and it's put into play attacking one of your opponents (the controller of the enchantment for instance). However, if somehow your opponent tried to create a token or put a creature card into play attacking during your turn, they would instead still create the token or put the creature card into play, but it would not be attacking.
July 9, 2017 6:13 a.m.
Oloro_Magic says... #3
Zedruu the Greathearted is the enchanted entity in this case scenario, ownership has no affect on the ability of Invocation of Saint Traft.
From the comprehensive rules:
109.5. The words you and your on an object refer to the objects controller, its would-be controller (if a player is attempting to play, cast, or activate it), or its owner (if it has no controller). For a static ability, this is the current controller of the object its on. For an activated ability, this is the player who activated the ability. For a triggered ability, this is the controller of the object when the ability triggered, unless its a delayed triggered ability. To determine the controller of a delayed triggered ability, see rules 603.7df.
603.7d If a spell creates a delayed triggered ability, the source of that delayed triggered ability is that spell. The controller of that delayed triggered ability is the player who controlled that spell as it resolved. #
603.7e If an activated or triggered ability creates a delayed triggered ability, the source of that delayed triggered ability is the same as the source of that other ability. The controller of that delayed triggered ability is the player who controlled that other ability as it resolved. #
603.7f If a static ability generates a replacement effect which causes a delayed triggered ability to be created, the source of that delayed triggered ability is the object with that static ability. The controller of that delayed triggered ability is the same as the controller of that object at the time the replacement effect was applied.
The aura in question gives a triggered ability to the enchanted creature and as the controller of the creature you control the triggered ability without controlling the aura itself. If the aura created the 4/4 instead of giving the ability to the creature then your opponent would control the triggered ability as stated in rule 109.5.
July 9, 2017 1:35 p.m.
Everyone here is correct in saying that you'd get the angel. It's actually a common strategy in Zedruu decks to play a lot of auras, since changing control of an aura often doesn't change its effect. (For example: Paradox Haze on yourself still gives YOU an extra upkeep every turn, even if you give your opponent control of it. Very good in Zedruu.)
But to answer your question fully: No you can't be attacked during your own attack step.
From the comp rules:
506.2. During the combat phase, the active player is the attacking player; creatures that player controls may attack. During the combat phase of a two-player game, the nonactive player is the defending player; that player and planeswalkers he or she controls may be attacked.
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506.3b If an effect would put a creature onto the battlefield attacking under the control of any player except an attacking player, that creature does enter the battlefield, but its never considered to be an attacking creature.
506.3c If an effect would put a creature onto the battlefield attacking either a player not in the game or a planeswalker no longer on the battlefield or no longer a planeswalker, that creature does enter the battlefield, but its never considered to be an attacking creature.
As you can see from that, only attacking players are allowed to have attacking creatures, and only defending players and their planeswalkers are allowed to be attacked.
If somehow, and I can't think of anyway this would actually happen, your opponent got a 4/4 angel onto the battlefield attacking you during your attack step, then it would just come into play without attacking. (Most cards put creatures into play "tapped and attacking," but if they were to untap it somehow, then they would be able to block with it during the Declare Blockers Step.)
Blard says... #1
I'm pretty sure you actually get the angel because the card says that Zedru gains that ability and since Zedru is under your control you control the ability and you get the Angel.
July 9, 2017 5:01 a.m.