Burn spells to Planeswalkers?

Asked by UpperDeckerTaco 9 years ago

So I will ask the question here in a bit, but let me explain first why I am asking. So I understand that if you have a burn spell, (Lightning Strike), you can first state your target as the player, then switch it to his Planeswalker. (If that is wrong please let me know) And so here in lies my question...what about a Jeskai Charm? It targets an opponent, which is a "player"...could it in turn then change it to the Planeswalker?

filledelanuit says... #1

You are correct about the redirecting.

You could. If you control burn spell that is targeting a player when it goes to resolve you can chose to redirect the damage to a planeswalker. There are a couple caveats. First you have to control the spell. Second it has to be damage not life loss.

Another thing to know is that your opponent doesn't get a chance to respond to you redirecting the damage because it is a replacement effect not an ability.

December 1, 2014 5:32 p.m.

So what you're saying is that I can Jeskai Charm a planeswalker for 4 damage after redirecting from the opponent and/or "player"?

December 1, 2014 5:34 p.m.

WomboCombo says... Accepted answer #3

Yes, you can re-direct the damage from Jeskai Charm to a planeswalker if you'd like.

To be more clear, any non-combat damage dealt to an opponent (such as the triggered ability on Guttersnipe for example) can be re-directed to a planeswalker.

The actual rule:

306.7. If noncombat damage would be dealt to a player by a source controlled by an opponent, that opponent may have that source deal that damage to a planeswalker the first player controls instead. This is a redirection effect (see rule 614.9) and is subject to the normal rules for ordering replacement effects (see rule 616). The opponent chooses whether to redirect the damage as the redirection effect is applied.

December 1, 2014 5:35 p.m.

Thank you both to lordoftheshadows and WomboCombo!

December 1, 2014 5:37 p.m.

Colten_Lee says... #5

Could you do the same with a card like Browbeat?

December 1, 2014 8:38 p.m.

Colten_Lee I don't believe you could if you were the one to cast it, the player that wanted to take the damage could target himself and then redirect it to his own planeswalker, but I see that probably not happening and if it does, it'd only be in severe cases to where he only has 5 life or less and doesn't want you to draw.

December 1, 2014 8:50 p.m.

Colten_Lee says... #7

Yeah that makes sense.

December 2, 2014 11 a.m.

filledelanuit says... #8

@Colten_Lee I'm not exactly sure what you're asking but I'll try.

The ONLY person who controls the redirection of the damage is the person who controls the spell. If you cast the spell and an opponent choose to take the damage then you would be able to redirect the damage to a planeswalker they control if you want.

If an opponent cast it and you choose to take the damage the opponent can redirect the damage and you have no say in the matter.

If you cast the spell and for some reason choose to take the damage you couldn't redirect the damage to yourself. This is because the controller of the spell and the person being damaged have to be different people. This is important be cause you couldn't cast something like Volcanic Fallout and redirect the damage to a planeswalker you control.

December 2, 2014 12:59 p.m.

Colten_Lee says... #9

Okay, so I cast Browbeat, opponent chooses to take damage, then I could redirect it to a PW they control??

December 2, 2014 2:43 p.m.

filledelanuit says... #10

Yep

December 2, 2014 4:28 p.m.

Oh, well I was wrong...but that's pretty cool.

December 2, 2014 5:47 p.m.

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