Arcane and Copying

Asked by SerElmdor 7 years ago

I am going to do my best to work this out, I just want to make sure it goes according to how I believe it to.

Lets say I have a Pyromancer's Goggles on the field. I play Lava Spike with Goggles, in response to me casting lava spike I splice in Desperate Ritual. The Goggles would copy the spliced spell and do 6 damage and give me 6 red mana for a cost of 2?

Alternatively if the Goggles copy the Lava spike and I am forced to splice into only one of them. I could play it like this: Cast Lava Spike, Splice in Desperate ritual in response use goggles to cast Reverberate or Increasing Vengeance to copy Desperate Ritual and get 9 red mana for a X cost burn or something?

Or even better: Cast Lava Spike, Splice in Desperate Ritual and in response to Desperate Ritual resolving cast Reverberate with Goggles and copy Lava spike twice for 9 damage and 9 red mana?

I never really dabbled with Spice into Arcane, but it looks fun.

Thanks!

~Elmdor

Raging_Squiggle says... Accepted answer #1

502.40a Splice is a static ability that functions while a card is in your hand. "Splice onto [type or subtype] [cost]" means "You may reveal this card from your hand as you play a [type or subtype] spell. If you do, copy this cards text box onto that spell and pay [cost] as an additional cost to play that spell." Paying a cards splice cost follows the rules for paying additional costs in rules 409.1b and 409.1fh

Firstly, you don't respond to your spell to splice something on, it happens before you're finished casting it.

You begin to cast Lava Spike, and you choose to splice on Desperate Ritual. You have the total cost to pay of mana symbol 1mana symbol rmana symbol r.

Using the Goggles to help pay for it, you copy the Lava Spike, and therefore copying all copiable attributes including all text on the card.

You will get 2 instances of "deal 3 damage to someone, and get mana symbol rmana symbol rmana symbol r in your mana pool."

August 15, 2016 6:10 p.m.

Necrohellion says... #2

Rule 502.40a deals with how splice functions.

502.40a Splice is a static ability that functions while a card is in your hand. Splice onto [type or subtype] [cost] means You may reveal this card from your hand as you play a [type or subtype] spell. If you do, copy this cards text box onto that spell and pay [cost] as an additional cost to play that spell.

Because Lava Spike now gains the text of Desperate Ritual when you copy the Spike all the effects of the Ritual are applied as the effect is now "written" on the Lava Spike, so yes copying works.

Remember that splice must happen as you cast the original spell before you pay the costs for it and the splice cost must be paid before the original spell's cost.

August 15, 2016 6:20 p.m.

SerElmdor says... #3

Thank you both, I hope they do some more with Arcane spells and splicing in the future. It is an interesting mechanic.

August 15, 2016 6:25 p.m.

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