A Very Specific, Complicated and Obscure Situation
Asked by ME4Twaffle 9 years ago
I have Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker on the field. I use his first ability to turn him into a 4/4 dragon creature. My friend casts Act of Aggression on him, then casts Cloudshift on him. What happens? Does he keep him for good? Does he stay a dragon and forget about his life as a planeswalker?
It's not really complicated or obscure really. Cloudshift says to return the exiled creature under the control of the caster of Cloudshift so the fact that you are the owner doesn't matter. Objects which are exiled and come back have no memory of their previous existence and enter the battlefield as new objects, thus, no longer effected by the +1 ability, or the "give control back at end of turn" effect of the Act of Aggression
November 13, 2014 8:56 p.m.
ME4Twaffle says... #3
But if it's not a creature, how can it follow the rules of Cloudshift?
November 13, 2014 9 p.m.
ME4Twaffle says... #4
Never mind, just realized Cloudshift says return that 'CARD' to the battlefield, not creature. If it DID say creature (which is irrelevant, but entertain me), would it just stay in exile?
November 13, 2014 9:02 p.m.
When he takes it, it is a creature.
Cloudshift says "Exile target creature you control, then return THAT CARD to the battlefield under your control" it doesn't say "return that creature" or even "that creature card"
In that case, "That card" means "Whichever card you exiled with it earlier in the spell's resolution."
November 13, 2014 9:03 p.m.
Well, the main thing is that it would never say "that creature" because that's not how cards are templated. As a result, I'm not really sure. I mean, in exile, it's a Planeswalker, so if they wanted to make sure it was still a creature, it would probably say "then if it is a creature card, return it to the battlefield" which would keep it in exile, but I don't think there are any cards which work that way.
November 13, 2014 9:04 p.m.
ME4Twaffle says... #7
Thank you for your help, AND for entertaining my irrelevance. :)
November 13, 2014 9:06 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #8
Even if Cloudshift said "that creature", it would still be referring to the "target creature you control" earlier in the sentence. An effect that moves a card from one zone to another knows that the card in the second zone used to be the card in the first zone. Cloudshift's effect would still work properly in such a case.
November 13, 2014 11:32 p.m.
Agreed, it would have to say "If it's a creature card" for it to reconsider the fact that it's no longer a creature in exile.
Devonin says... #1
He will have a Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker which is not a creature, and is under his control.
November 13, 2014 8:54 p.m.