Theros gods showing As enchantments only
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Posted on Jan. 6, 2020, 11:33 p.m. by MrTitanic
Is there any way to return the Theros gods to being filed under creatures instead of enchantments in the deck list screen?
Is there any possibility of having a choice in how they are displayed? When I am deck building I choose to prefer considering them for a creature slot instead since im Commander they often will be. I think your reasoning is sound but for me personally I would love to see them in the creature list when I am designing my decks. So if there is an option to select either or for where they will be displayed I would appreciate it. Thank you
January 7, 2020 5:07 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #4
Custom categories are your only option here for having your own system of categorizing.
1x Island #Land
1x Storm Crow #Wincon
1x Llanowar Elves #Category_With_Spaces
or
# Creature
1x Purphoros, God of the Forge
3x Erebos, God of the Dead
2x Plains
# Enchantment
10x Noble Hierarch
Note that to do this you have to give a custom category to everything otherwise you'll end up with a list of "other" for things not labelled. The list form with line breaks is much easier for larger lists.
January 7, 2020 5:26 p.m.
That’s perfect! I don’t mind the extra effort so long as there is a personalized way of organizing the list. Once THB is finished being spoiled and I edit my decks I will be sure to organize them with this method. Thank you!
January 7, 2020 5:30 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #6
You can also categorize something into multiple categories using the first method listed there, by just doing something like this.
1x Island #Land
1x Storm Crow #Creature
1x Llanowar Elves #Ramp #Creature
1x Weathered Wayfarer #Land #Ramp
It will not count the cards multiple times in your deck's total card count, so you don't have to worry about that. However, you cannot do this with the second method.
You can see this in effect on this deck: The Unfair Girl, The Daughter of Kaalia
January 7, 2020 6:01 p.m. Edited.
Thanks again! I was also wondering if Stinging Lionfish, Alirios, Enraptured, Chain to Memory and Stern Dismissal can be added to the THB cards if possible? I am not sure if we can add them ourselves. Thank you!
January 12, 2020 2:59 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #8
Upgraded users can add cards themselves. The rest of the THB cards will take a while as I'm sick and this sickness has made it painful for my eyes to look at a monitor screen.
January 12, 2020 7:33 p.m.
Aw I am sorry to hear that. I hope you feel better soon. Hopefully it isn’t anything serious. Please be sure it’s not photophobia and rule out meningitis as a possibility (I don’t know your symptoms and it’s unlikely regardless but it’s always a concern for me to evaluate a migraine vs meningitis or other issue when something like that is described
January 13, 2020 2:19 a.m.
PastaSaucy says... #10
So if I understand this correctly, you changed how all the devotion gods are displayed, because your opinion is that it is unreliable to count them as creatures when deck building because you don’t personally see them consistently be creatures? Despite the possibility that many, if not most, players always look at and treat them as creatures because they DO see them consistently be creatures or because they build their decks with that mentality?
January 16, 2020 1:11 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #11
After going through various discords and getting thoughts, the general argument for and against having the Theros gods show as enchantments entirely becomes a matter of the target audience being casual dominated or competitive dominated.
Competitive players see the gods as enchantments, since they are more often enchantments then creatures in any given game of magic, and it is unreliable to play them as creatures due to competitive players naturally having higher levels of interaction than casual players. So the majority of use cases for the gods is based on their passive (or activated ability, if relevant), and if that's not good enough, they aren't used (pharika, old heliod, old nylea, iroas and mogis all saw little to no play). Keranos, God of Storms got the most competitive play out of any of the gods for being a hard to answer threat both for and against control, though is now too slow. If it ever turned into a creature, it would be effectively worse because being a creature is easier to answer. Heliod, Sun-Crowned is also shaping up to be a top competitive card with its passive/active being an infinite combo with Walking Ballista .
Casual players see them as creatures mainly because they focus mostly on the devotion aspect being a cool thing to build towards, kind of like ramp decks actually. The build their deck focusing entirely on turning on devotion, and play games with others that have similar deckbuilding skills, which usually results in low interaction/removal allowing the devotion goal to flourish.
So, with both of those points laid out, have a strawpoll to vote on your preferred option.
(Note that sorting them as an enchantment doesn't affect things like, using them as a commander since they are still legendary enchantment creatures in the database, regardless of what they are sorted as.)
January 18, 2020 6:36 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #12
SaltySpecula: Check the site updates forum, there's a thread there about how to input art variations of a card decks/posts.
Femme_Fatale says... #2
I put them categorized as enchantments in the deckbuilder primarily because of how they are actually played, as indestructible enchantments. The other enchantment creatures stay as creatures because that's their primary function, to be creatures. You don't play the gods as creatures because it is unreliable to make them creatures consistently.
I was not here for when the theros was initially released, so I could not gauge what to categorize the gods, but now that we have the knowledge of how theros gods are primarily played, I went back and categorized them correctly. Interestingly, not all the gods were even categorized as creatures in the first place. I'll go back through and judge the enchantment artifacts for proper categorization at a later date.
January 7, 2020 3:50 p.m.