New hub requests

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Posted on Feb. 18, 2020, 11:25 a.m. by Verlise

I apologize if someone has already flagged this, but I have some suggestions of Hub types that should be added:

  • Cycling
  • Bounce
  • Card Draw

Thank you for your consideration!

Boza says... #2

There are 3 cards that work with cycling to produce some advantage, which is hardly an archetype, bounce is not really an archetype as it is not a way to win the game or a classification of a deck type, card draw is equally non-specific. Bounce can also be just lumped together in with Tempo.

February 18, 2020 11:53 a.m.

Verlise says... #3

Thanks Boza for the feedback. I realize they may not be considered game winning, but I guess I am used to how other sites may structure the different deck options. For example: https://edhrec.com/themes .

February 18, 2020 12:23 p.m.

Boza says... #4

How is this site not structured the same way? Although the hubs are not separated in any way (colors, archetypes, etc.), these "themes" are there.

There are 5 cards that realistically do something when you cycle a card. All of them have the text "when you cycle or discard a card". Thus, just use the discard hub.

Bounce theme has nothing to do with bounce - Yuriko, Niv-Mizzet and Golos are the top bounce commanders. The cards are generic enters-the-battlefield cards. So, a more correct hub would be "Enters the Battlefield", but that is so generic it means next to nothing. Perhaps "Flicker" or "Blink" would be most appropriate, but certainly not "Bounce".

Card Draw is equally generic. If your deck has a few cantrip cards, is it a Card Draw deck? Or if your deck features 4 Overwhelming Intellect, is it a Card Draw deck? If an EDH deck of yours uses card draw, it is likely either a group hug deck or a group slug deck. Maybe with Thassa's Oracle and Jace, Wielder of Mysteries, a new deck hub could be made to reflect decking yourself as a win condition.

Other sites may have generic, nonsensical categories. However, hubs tend to be more evocative of the archetypes they represent. Eg. Cruel Control is a control deck featuring Cruel Ultimatum.

TLDR: You have to be able to clearly define a new hub and how it differs from existing ones.

February 18, 2020 12:49 p.m.

shadow63 says... #5

I think the blink tag could be updated to blink/bounce as a lot of decks that use one use the other. Or do you mean bouncing opponents stuff? If so that's just tempo/control

February 18, 2020 1:50 p.m.

Verlise says... #6

shadow63 Boza I was thinking about flicker when referencing bounce so my original request should have been for Flicker. They don't appear to have Blink either. Also, how would you describe Exile and then return to battle field on next end step affects? I feel like that could be described as Flicker, as well. Unless there is a specific term for it.

Thanks for the feedback. I just want to make sure to properly categorize my decks and am still learning the ropes.

February 18, 2020 2:02 p.m.

shadow63 says... #7

Flicker is at the end of turn blink is immediate Flickerwisp and Momentary Blink and I could of sworn there was a blink tag

February 18, 2020 2:43 p.m.

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