BFZ Expedition Lands have incorrect price

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Posted on Oct. 2, 2015, 5:14 p.m. by vampirelazarus

As stated, the Expedition lands are pulling their regular card price, and not their actual value.

http://i.imgur.com/cy9I8tj.png

Femme_Fatale says... #2

I honestly don't think we should put their correct price down. The casual player would not like to see their modern deck go up by $2,000 when they are never going to spend that amount. I know I wouldn't, as it is an inaccurate portrayal of what we would want to spend on a deck. A lot of players here look for budget decks, and when our decks increase by $400-$800 by just including one playset of lands, those players are going to have a much harder time getting the deck they want when they see and think that all those lands are those prices.

October 2, 2015 5:20 p.m.

vampirelazarus says... #3

I think the code should do what the code is meant to do, and pull the correct price.

October 2, 2015 5:24 p.m.

Boza says... #4

The issue is that the site mouse hover image is always the latest uploaded, in this case it is the expedition lands. It is technically the same card.

There should be a separate set for the expeditions, so that you can add its tag to the card and display the actual expedition.

October 2, 2015 5:25 p.m.

UrbanAnathema says... #5

I disagree. Unless the price can be limited to only the specific version of the card.

October 2, 2015 5:26 p.m.

vampirelazarus says... #6

There is a seperate set for the expeditions.

And I'm using it in the above image, so that is not the issue.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-set/zendikar-expedition/

October 2, 2015 5:27 p.m.

vampirelazarus says... #7

UrbanAnathema: That's exactly what Im talking about. If you use the regular BFZ set, it pulls the regular BFZ price. If you use the Expedition set, it should pull the Expedition price, but instead is pulling the BFZ price.

October 2, 2015 5:28 p.m.

UrbanAnathema says... #8

Well all the cards in my decks when I playtest are defaulting to the Expedition lands...I certainly didn't specify those versions when I built the deck, so I believe there is certainly an issue there.

October 2, 2015 5:29 p.m.

vampirelazarus says... #9

My BFZ lands that aren't marked expedition aren't defaulting.

http://i.imgur.com/sbMpiT1.png.

Edit: I checked the BFZ set, and the images are all correct so, its a code issue, probably.

October 2, 2015 5:32 p.m. Edited.

Femme_Fatale says... #10

T/O defaults to the most latest set of lands. BFZ comes after EXP. EXP comes after ZEN, KTK, and RTR. This is why you see EXP lands for fetches and shocks, but not EXP lands for the tango lands.

I'm certain the EXP lands not showing their prices was a thing done on purpose. And to be honest, these cards have such limited applicability to the user base here on T/O that it doesn't make sense to alienate such a large user base by obscene card prices they aren't going to pay for.

October 2, 2015 5:35 p.m.

UrbanAnathema says... #11

Yeah. All of my fetches default to Expedition artwork. :(

October 2, 2015 5:35 p.m.

UrbanAnathema says... #12

Yeah, that explains it. So if they update the price for the BFZ Expedition lands because of how the code defaults to most recent printing it would drive the prices up on any deck with those lands in them.

October 2, 2015 5:37 p.m.

Femme_Fatale says... #13

Exactly. And no standard player is going to pay an extra $400-$1200 for their fetches land base when they are just trying to play for FNM once every month or so.

October 2, 2015 5:41 p.m.

Then the site should implement a check:

If shockOrFetch != Expedition: Use RTR or KTK card

Else: Use EXP card

October 2, 2015 5:42 p.m.

Femme_Fatale says... #15

What if we want our decks to look nice with EXP cards? Its pretty much the same reasoning with the alters.

What yeago would have to do is implement a code in which we can determine whether or not a card should hold the most cheapest or most expensive price while still holding the visual version. A simple + or - would work for this. However this would have to be openly advertised somewhere on this site.

October 2, 2015 5:49 p.m.

Also, I'm sure people are smart enough to look for cheaper printings of cards. I know they're standard players, but come on.

October 2, 2015 5:49 p.m.

Femme_Fatale says... #17

You should certainly know that we can't rely on the perceived intelligence of our userbase to take shortcuts in anything, because otherwise we'll get tonnes of questions asking about that one shortcut we took.

October 2, 2015 5:53 p.m.

The implementation would be to determine what set is being used.

No need to check the card prices to determine which to use

Let's walk through this:

Is the card marked as an expedition land?

If not, default to the most recent non -expedition printing and pull it's price (what the system currently does)

If it is, use the expedition printing and pull the expedition price

October 2, 2015 5:55 p.m. Edited.

Femme_Fatale says... #19

But I want to see the EXP lands. Lots of people here use the other sets or alters to make their decks look fancy, and we wouldn't want to see that glaring price.

This is why I say if we are to include the price of EXP lands we have to do it in a way that allows people to see the much better looking EXP lands in their deck without that glaring price being added on to their deck.

October 2, 2015 5:59 p.m.

If you want to use the expedition land then you will mark the card as an expedition land in the deck builder

October 2, 2015 6:05 p.m.

Femme_Fatale says... #21

But once again, I don't want that price being added on to the deck, I just want to use the EXP image. When users go looking for budget decks, they immediately go looking to the side for the price. They don't bother to look at what is in your deck causing that price to see where they can cut corners. They just look at the price, if they can't pay for it, they move on.

October 2, 2015 6:09 p.m.

Your example is basically "I want to use the Guru basic lands as art in my deck but I don't want the basic guru prices to show up."

October 2, 2015 6:11 p.m.

Femme_Fatale says... #23

And the Guru prices don't show up. Forest, Island, Plains, Swamp, Mountain

None of the promo cards have prices. Why should EXP be any different?

October 2, 2015 6:17 p.m.

They should show.

All promo cards should show their actual value, and not the value of the most recent printing.

October 2, 2015 6:20 p.m.

zyphermage says... #25

I agree with femme_fatale here. Anyone interested in promos are aware of the prices and if not they weren't truly interested. Anyone not interested would be less likely to be aware of the budget price.

October 2, 2015 7:14 p.m.

xlaleclx says... #26

The expeditions shouldn't be the default printings of the cards on here.

October 2, 2015 7:18 p.m.

No ones saying they should be the default, I'm saying if they're marked as promo, or from a different set (like the expeditions or guru lands), then that price should be shown.

October 2, 2015 7:23 p.m.

yeaGO says... #28

i don't think we consider any prices right now for promo cards. i could be mistaken about that.

October 2, 2015 8:01 p.m.

No, as was shown to me, none of the promo cards use promo price.

October 2, 2015 8:27 p.m.

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