No Standard bannings this time

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Posted on July 2, 2018, 11:19 a.m. by AgentGreen

My take; with rotation happening in 2 months; this is a smart call. Yes Chainwelder is a BITCH, but B/R decks are going to be severely damaged post-rotation; losing many core cards like Hazoret and Chandra.

Any further thoughts?

RowdyMagic18 says... #2

I completely agree with you, chainwhirler is very annoying, but I predict with rotation, decks with Goblin Chainwhirler will decrease. But until rotation, we’ll have to deal with the horrors of mono red, and BR vehicles for just a bit longer. FeelsBadMan.

July 2, 2018 1:11 p.m.

Bennett_Stokes says... #3

If Goblin Chainwhirler got banned I think that it would have been fine, even without Chainwhirler I think Red would remain a dominate deck and so players already playing Red would still be able to continue playing Red. I also think that people who were upset will be satisfied so from a business perspective it might have been better to ban the card. However I am okay with Red because it is my best matchup so the more people playing it the better!

July 2, 2018 7:19 p.m.

multimedia says... #4

Way too optimistic that Chainwhirler will not be a problem post rotation. As long as it's a card in Standard tokens and x/1 creatures are not safe to play; play them at your own risk. Wizards needed to bite the bullet and ban Chainwhirler. Admit it was a mistake printing it right after tribal Ixalan, fire whoever is finalizing the completely overpowered red cards for Standard and move on. Unfortunately, like all Wizards decisions they do the opposite of what needs to be done.

When in the last two years has mono red not been a good, powerful and even dominate deck to play in Standard? Lightning Strike, Shock, Wizard's Lightning, Viashino Pyromancer, Demanding Dragon and Chainwhirler are enough reasons to keep mono red as a good option to play post rotation.

July 3, 2018 2:15 a.m.

Thescarabbob says... #5

My biggest problem with whirler is that it doesn't hit your own creatures, or you. There's litterally no downside or buildaround to playing it. Plus, wotc missed the interaction with the wither creature. Seriously dissapointed. And to all those who say it dies at rotation, monored still looks pretty good, plus there's whatever we get in RTRTR. I don't want to stick through another 3+ months of whirler making my fun brews unplayable

July 5, 2018 7:55 p.m.

Argy says... #6

Goblin Chainwhirler does nothing much against my deck.

I think it's specific decks that have issues with it, not the meta as a whole.

I'm glad they didn't ban it. You can't just ban a card because it is working well in some decks.

July 8, 2018 11:43 p.m.

Scott_Anderson says... #7

I’m not sure how B/R or monored survives rotation. Chainwhirler won’t have a home.

On the other hand, we will be seeing a bajillion more elf decks, stompy decks, and maybe even elf tribal.

Chainwhirler should stay.

August 2, 2018 1:13 a.m.

Thescarabbob says... #8

I would disagree. I've already built an ok RW aggro deck, and chainwhirler goes in as a top end. The only reason I haven't already is the price.

August 2, 2018 5:37 p.m.

Bennett_Stokes says... #9

I think its fair to say Green will be the most powerful aggro deck. Red probably won't keep up that is not to say all red decks are going to be bad but it won't be oppressive the way it is now. the problem with Chainwhirler is that you can't race the deck with a go wide strategy. you don't have time to do a token based strategy because of the speed of Red in the current meta. unless their are a lot of cards that I missed I think Red will be slowed down by Rotation that gives you time to play anthem effects which negate the huge Drawback of the current meta in which no tokens can safely be played.

August 3, 2018 10:04 a.m.

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