War of the Spark: Spoilers and Speculation
Spoilers, Rumors, and Speculation forum
Posted on March 31, 2019, 10:56 a.m. by AgentGreen
Spoiler season technically kicks off today
Flooremoji says... #3
First off, in order of revelation:
Stat giiving planeswalkers??!!! UNCOMMON PLANESWALKERS???!!!! HYBRID MANA PLANSEWALKERS???!!! WHO IN THE MAGIC DESIGN TEAM THOUGHT TO GIVE EVERYTHING AFINITY FOR ARTIFACTS????!!!!!
Forgive my rant
March 31, 2019 12:05 p.m.
@Flooremoji Unfortunately(or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), that tezzeret is the buy-a-box promo, so you’ll never need worry about losing to it in draft.
As far as my two cents go, I really like the concept of Amass, but I feel like a good number of these planeswalkers are going to be hugely disappointing power-level wise, which is bound to be a bummer to fans of lesser characters like Kiora or Ashiok.
March 31, 2019 12:48 p.m.
Flooremoji says... #5
heckproof: Ohh, it's a buy a box promo? Thanks, I didn't know that. I do agree on the Planeswalkers, hopefully, there will be some good ones though.
Would be funny though of someone brought their Garruk, Apex Predator to the draft.
March 31, 2019 1:01 p.m.
ShutUpMokuba says... #6
Amass looks like the sort of ability that will make some broken combo in EDH format.
March 31, 2019 1:22 p.m.
AgentGreen says... #7
Control has another Wipe; and this time it's in
Time Wipe (cute name BTW)
Sorcery (Rare)
Return a creature you control to it's owners hand. Destroy all creatures
March 31, 2019 1:31 p.m.
ZendikariWol says... #8
OH, these planeswalkers suck! Oh, they suck so badly! I am in literal pain! OOOOH, these planeswalkers suck!!
March 31, 2019 2:03 p.m.
JANKYARD_DOG says... #9
The new trailer is disappointing... looks like Lily isn't going to make it through this one... :'(
March 31, 2019 2:21 p.m.
JANKYARD_DOG says... #12
ZendikariWol I was hoping they would work around it or through it and free her. Then we would have an arc where she must come to terms with her mortality. That could go a few ways, she could lash out at her saviors at her loss of power or move towards embracing her sacrifice. Though with the budding lovey dovey stuff between Vraska and Jace I guess they gotta remove that interest. Who knows... story for a different thread maybe. I could of accepted Gideon being a zombie pincushion... but no... had to go all noble and safe his ass.
March 31, 2019 2:38 p.m.
Matt_The_OGRE says... #13
At this point, it seems like you can only have 1 zombie army at a time. Unless they print like a Raise the Alarm type card for amass.
March 31, 2019 3:17 p.m.
ShutUpMokuba says... #14
If you can have multiple zombie armies things may degenerate a bit. However on "Bad Boy Gaming" YouTube channel i've found a video with some of the new cards with new Tezzeret, Ob-Nixilis, Ajani and Liliana.
March 31, 2019 3:31 p.m.
Despite what the trailer might imply, I think Liliana is going to make it out of this in one form or another. I suspect she has plot armour so long as she and Garruk have unfinished business.
March 31, 2019 3:40 p.m.
I don't think Liliana is going to get killed here, as cdkime has already said there is still some plot points that should be finished up such as involving The Chain Veil and Garruk, Apex Predator , and even the Raven Man's identity.
March 31, 2019 4:43 p.m.
I guess the worry is that all those plot points will be really hastily resolved in this story with no satisfying conclusion.
March 31, 2019 4:44 p.m.
ShutUpMokuba says... #18
Ugin will come up with something for sure to save the day
March 31, 2019 5:11 p.m.
ZendikariWol says... #19
Actually, I don’t know. cdkime I agree, it is quite possible Lili gets a Deus Ex Machina- We all know Wizards would go there. My personal dream? Lili and Gids die.
Lili saves Gideon from the zombie army. Teferi slows Bolas down just long enough for Gideon to shank him with the Blackblade Reforged . But Nicol Bolas, choosing in his last split second to die in glorious spite, sacrifices his soul to envelop Ravnica in a massive conflagration of death.
Gideon, battered and weary, takes his last action- forming a bubble around the largest group of people he can find.
“This time I can save them, Erebos. This time, I win.”
Liliana falls to her knees. Well, she chuckles, live by the death magic, die by the death magic.
“It is a shame though. The moment I get free of a contract, I have to go dying and saving the multiverse.”
March 31, 2019 5:20 p.m.
This set honestly seems interesting. There's some stuff on mythic spoiler already and like uncommon Planeswalkers so far seem... Interesting. Also if you watch the Lily video you'll notice that there are Planeswalkers that aren't included on the stain glass potentially (specifically Dack Fayden )
March 31, 2019 5:30 p.m.
ShutUpMokuba says... #21
Liliana's death may be used like the death of Jon snow in game of thrones. To free her from her contract. They'll come up with some trick to bring her back. She is a fan favourite. She has plot armor like gideon/jace
March 31, 2019 5:37 p.m.
ZendikariWol says... #22
Tezzeret, someone obviously present in WAR, was also not included among the stained-glass walkers, dbpunk. There are absolutely some that we haven’t seen yet.
But guys, really, since it has been more or less spoiled that (as I predicted) everyone is presently lacking a spark, GIVE US LEGENDARY CREATURES!!!! This would be an enormous success for two reasons, I think.
1) commander players want fun commanders and love lore (there’s a reson we got pissed about Ludevic, Necro-Alchemist - he gave us neither). I want an Ajani commander. I want a Jace commander. I want a Vraska commander. There are so many characters that I wish that I could build around, who could have such fun and neat effects, because...
2) it would allow us to portray the characters in a way they have never been represented before. Imagine the kind of spice that could be printed, and imagine what a depth that could give to their characters! There’s a simplicity in having one or two static abilities that I feel planeswalkers lack.
For example, look at Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir vs. Teferi, Temporal Archmage . On the creature, the flavorful implication is very clear and straightforward: he slows opponents down while speeding you up. On the walker, while you can explore more facets of his abilities, to someone who doesn’t know the character well it just looks like a hodgepodge of abities. (not only that, but that particular Teferi walker represents his character prodigiously well. many walker cards are not so clear- ie most of the Ob Nixilises, Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded , Xenagos, the Reveler , Jace, Architect of Thought )
March 31, 2019 6:14 p.m.
They released quite a bit and now there are some more spoilers up. The Tezzert promo is going to go very nicely in some EDH decks out there.
I am pumped about proliferate for my Atraxa deck and the new 4 drop ajani is going to probably be used in some super-friends edh decks.
Now I can also see Bola's Citadel + Sensei's Divining Top + Aetherflux Reservoir in EDH yep can win the game on that play
April 1, 2019 1:04 a.m.
ShutUpMokuba says... #24
Among the planeswalkers revealed liliana is good. New jace is about milling yourself and i'm disappointed as i was expecting more..
April 1, 2019 3:10 a.m.
I do like new jace’s static ability as a duplicate laboratory maniac for my EDH deck though.
April 1, 2019 6:29 a.m.
ShutUpMokuba says... #27
saj0219 I love the idea of a mill deck. But after some try i've realized that with the mill cards we have at the moment this is not a consistent win condition. About that card i love the artwork at least.
April 1, 2019 7:22 a.m.
I am excited for this set! By far, the best cards right now are Bolas' Citadel and my favorite so far - Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge! I would play the heck out of it in Arena. It is great with Karn and Dovin and M19 Tezz, for artifact tribal.
April 1, 2019 9:13 a.m.
ZendikariWol says... #29
Okay. So ya know how I hated yesterday's spoilers?
May be backtracking on that.
Pardon my French, but like holy shit guys I am crazy excited for this. Unfortunate that one of my friend's and my favorite walkers (Arlinn) got the jank treatment, but Sorin and Ajani (is okay) and Ral and Niv-Mizzet and Karn and Teferi and Domri and the return of proliferate and armies feel like a weird tribal and I'd be fascinated to see them used outside of Zombies (maybe on Dominaria?).
Yeaterday's spoilers were, with the exception of a couple, hot garbage. Glad they stepped it up from there.
April 1, 2019 9:40 a.m.
So, there will be 20 jank (aka Uncommon) planeswalkers, 3 mythic and 13 rare ones.
The mythic ones will have 3 abilities and a static one. The rare ones will have 2 abilities and static one, while the uncommon ones will be 10 mono-colored (2 per color) and 10 two-colors - apperantly hybrid, judging by Vraska. The uncommon ones will also have only a single minus ability, no plus loyalty abilities and one static one.
Overall, I am excited for this set. I am willing to buy-a-box, especially with the current best planeswalker spoiled being the BaB Promo!
April 1, 2019 10:09 a.m.
ShutUpMokuba says... #31
For spoilers about new cards and the plot: http://mythicspoiler.com/newspoilers.html
April 1, 2019 10:13 a.m.
AgentGreen says... #32
Dovin's Veto (FNM promo) is fun.
Long story short; it's a negate that uses , but can't be countered
April 1, 2019 10:49 a.m.
All of the promos were just spoiled, as well as Kiora. Kiora is looking mighty nice for limited and commander:
Kiora
Uncommon
When a creature with power 4 or more ETBs, draw a card.
-1 Untap target permanent.
Starting loyalty: 7
April 1, 2019 10:50 a.m.
ShutUpMokuba says... #34
New Teferi is cool too..
Cost:;
Each opponent can cast spells only any time they could cast a sorcery
[+1]: Until your next turn, cast sorceries as if they had flash
[-3]: Return up to one target artifact, creature or enchantment to its owner's hand, draw a card.
loyalty:4
April 1, 2019 11:03 a.m.
I'm also calling it now: Bolas' Citadel is going to be complained about by so many players. But it's going to win games and be a powerhouse in edh.
April 1, 2019 11:51 a.m.
AgentGreen says... #36
I like new Teferi
How to get an edge on an opposing control player? How about locking them out of their counter magic.
I do see Oath of Teferi seeing much more play now
April 1, 2019 11:52 a.m.
I have a Muldrotha deck just waiting to cast that. Imagine it in a green-black deck with Oracle of Mul Daya - it clears lands off the top, while the citadel casts the spells.
April 1, 2019 11:53 a.m.
LittleBlueHero says... #38
All of these new planeswalkers and im over here drooling over a new staple for my Teysa Karlov deck.
April 1, 2019 12:24 p.m.
Karn is busted! Im not sure if its april fools or not. 4 mana double artifact wish with built in artifact hate and animation..
April 1, 2019 12:48 p.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #41
Well so far the spoilers have done little to reduce my fears about this set (passive abilities on PW's seems like a mistake), but it's day one so there is plenty of time to introduce efficient, low rarity PW removal.
Emergence Zone is so far the only card that has caught my eye, but I am interested in the character The Wanderer. Her name, her clothing (especially her covered face), and her removal spell all scream Elspeth to me. Her bio is an interesting wrinkle though that gives me Emrakul vibes for a reason that I can't explain (maybe it's the hat :p). If it is indeed Elspeth, the cause of her unique spark could be because she would be the first Returned planeswalker.
It is nice to see proliferate again, and Amass seems like an interesting twist on the germ mechanic.
April 1, 2019 1:06 p.m.
pizzagod13 says... #42
So is the 5-color Niv that was spoiled legit? I would def build a deck with it if it is!
April 1, 2019 1:08 p.m.
ShutUpMokuba says... #43
pizzagod13 it probably is.. According to a theory i have heard around Niv was trying to become a planeswalker himself. I wanted so badly him to become one, for some reason.
April 1, 2019 1:15 p.m.
The new Niv-Mizzett looks really good and honestly I might include him in a test deck I use. The Worst 5 Color Deck You've Heard Of specifically.
April 1, 2019 1:26 p.m.
Samut's Sprint has some very, very interesting flavour text: "Every hour she faced . . . horrors she once revered as gods."
I foresee one of the Gods of Amonkhet returning as an Eternal.
April 1, 2019 2:26 p.m.
ZendikariWol says... #47
"Teyo Verada's first card, guys, I'm excited to see what they can do with the new guy!"
reads card
"... bummer."
April 1, 2019 2:48 p.m.
Honestly as long as Nahiri and Elspeth aren't bad uncommons, I'll be happy. Unfortunately, I feel like Nahiri's gonna end up being the R/W uncommon.
April 1, 2019 3:44 p.m.
WAIT! hang on, I forgot that Huatli was gonna be there. There's hope for Nahiri!
April 1, 2019 3:45 p.m.
LittleBlueHero says... #50
Not what I was hoping for... still may have a home for him in my The Haunt of Hightower deck though.
Caerwyn says... #2
For those who do not know, Wizards is doing something different with spoiler season this set. Each day’s spoilers are going to tell a part of the story. I am a huge fan of this method of spoiler and hope they do this for all future sets.
There’s some interesting things in this spoiler. It makes sense for proliferate to return, and I suspect that will be pretty strong at prerelease. Static abilities on Planeswalkers is something new, which drives up their casting cost some. The new mechanic Amass X (To amass X, put X +1/+1 counters on an army you control. If you don’t control an army, create a 0/0 black Zombie Army creature token first.) seems like a good way to build some powerful creatures to protect your walkers, and works well with proliferate.
I’m curious if the new Tezzeret is going to be the only card involving affinity for artifacts. I suspect so, and would love to see some of the other walkers might bringing back other old mechanics.
March 31, 2019 11:48 a.m. Edited.