Time Travel in KTK
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Posted on July 30, 2014, 4:46 a.m. by lothshteth
A time travel element was announced at SDCC. I feel it involves someone, possibly Sarkhan, going back in time to stop the dragon extinction thus bringing the dragons back to the plane. But, part of me thinks that's too predictable and WOTC wants us to think that so they can give us something out of the blue. What do y'all think?
RussischerZar says... #3
I don't know about this time travel stuff. Remember the last time someone tried time travel? That didn't go so well, did it? Why would it suddenly "work" now?
July 30, 2014 5:01 a.m.
lothshteth says... #4
Well Urza tried it with artifice and Karn wasn't the greatest test pilot. Not sure how Sarkhan or whomever would accomplish it, but of course time travel never goes as planned.
July 30, 2014 5:10 a.m.
I hate time travel. It makes no sense and my head starts to hurt.
July 30, 2014 6:02 a.m.
Would be awesome if it meant planeswalker cards for those that were alive pre-mending, in addition to the ones for Command 2014.
But, time traveling is what caused some of the rifts which meant the mending had to take place. It's a type of storyline that WotC has avoided doing with the Magic multiverse. I could see them revisiting the theme.
July 30, 2014 6:03 a.m.
lothshteth says... #7
Well the mending was tough because Urza f'd it all up to begin with, so Time Spiral was inevitable. But overall they did a good job with the block considering.
Now KTK time travel might involve artifice as well, but I think it'll have to do with something related to the plane itself. I would love it to simply be Sarkhan having the power but that would create even more problems.
July 30, 2014 6:42 a.m.
I read this idea that he goes back time and saves the dragons. Making the second set mono colored because it was before the clans. And then because the dragons are not extinct it changes the future. Meaning the third set will be wedge based, but the wedges will be.focused on a different color.than the first set.
July 30, 2014 9:10 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... #10
There are 5 wedges and 5 clans, they can't have wedges "focused on a different color". They may focus on different aspects of the colors for the second wedge set, or they may do shards because there is now "harmony".
July 30, 2014 9:24 a.m.
In khans each wedge is centered around a color. For example bug is centered around black. In the third set that could change and it.could be centered around green instead.
July 30, 2014 10:18 a.m.
Khans of Tarkir is a wedge SET, which is different from wedge block. ONLY the first set will be wedge, the rest will not. Did you read the thread:
"Additionally, only the set is about wedges. The block, as a whole, is not. There is also supposed to be a time travel element."
Reading is tech.
July 30, 2014 10:20 a.m.
Yeah, generally wedges should be focused on color A, with B and C being its enemy colors.KTK clans are focused on color B, with A being its enemy and C its ally.
July 30, 2014 10:23 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... #14
I was unaware that the wedges in Khans were color + allied color + shared enemy instead of color + both enemy as Wizards always defines it. If that is the case then the 3rd set may be a wedge theme of the commonly defined structure.
Just because the entire block isn't wedge themed doesn't mean that 2 of the sets won't be. Comprehension is tech. (wtf does that even mean btw)
July 30, 2014 10:48 a.m.
CommanderOfBolas says... #15
The time travel element doesn't have to be a person/being going back in time. It could be the storyline jumping back to show what Tarkir was like with dragons, then what it was like when the dragons were hunted. Also, as far as how the wedge works, it will be based on one color, supplemented by its enemy colors. Think about the shards. they were based on a color, and the other 2 were that colors allies. Grixis was based on black, with blue and red as allies. They wouldn't focus on a color in the wedge that has an ally.
July 30, 2014 noon
CommanderOfBolas - Maro has said that each of the wedges focus on a color + ally + shared enemy. Which is why Abzan is White based despite the fact it's WBG. Same with Mardu being Red based and being RBW. He also said he'd explain why they did it that way instead of the Shards way.
July 30, 2014 12:06 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #17
The last time time travel was implemented in the storyline, Karn jumped back 200 years to mend the time rift above Tolaria. That was back in Time Spiral. I'm almost certain Karn is the only person in the Multiverse still able to time travel, so for me, that makes it much more likely Karn will be in this block.
July 30, 2014 12:07 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #18
@ JWiley129. The clans are each based on one attribute of a dragons, Mardu for example is based on Speed (Red, white, black.) The others are Endurance (WBG,) Cunning (URW,) Ruthlessness (BGU,) and Savagery (GUR.)
July 30, 2014 12:47 p.m.
MindAblaze! - That's more of the flavor behind the Clans, but from a mechanical perspective they are based around a color + ally + shared enemy. You can see this when you look at the flavor too. White cares about Endurance, Blue cares about Cunning, Black cares about Ruthlessness, Red cares about Speed, and Green cares about Savagery. I'm not saying you're wrong, but that's another piece of the puzzle :)
July 30, 2014 12:52 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #20
I guess that's the shared attribute between each allied colored pair...I don't think anyone would argue Gruul = Savagery and Rakdos = Speed. Dimir = Ruthlessness fits, Azorius = Cunning probably does too. I can stretch to see Selesnya = Endurance...I'm interested to see how the common enemy plays into it.
July 30, 2014 1:04 p.m.
I agree it's a bit of a stretch to put Cunning into Azorius and Endurance into Selesnya, but I feel the Endurance and G/W fit is better than Cunning and U/W. Again, I'm just putting out what was said at the SDCC panel. That said, I'm also super hype for Khans now. And we aren't even done with M15 yet..
July 30, 2014 1:24 p.m.
lothshteth says... #22
I guess I could see it being Karn because he is THE time traveller, but by that rationale Teferi could regain his spark and be the one seeing as he's the temporal archmage. But, most likely it'll be Sarkhan by himself, possibly through Ugin's possession or something he stumbles upon.
July 30, 2014 4:46 p.m.
what IF, Karn and Koth take a break from Mirrodin plane and go and hang out with Sarkhan for a while then her ask Karn a favor for time traveling to see the Dragions of the future past?
July 30, 2014 4:50 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #24
Karn is already off New Phyrexia. Almost as soon as he was liberated he left to search the Multiverse for a cure for Phyrexian Oil.
July 30, 2014 4:52 p.m.
yeah but he can come back to pick up Koth and do the trip?
July 30, 2014 4:56 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #26
I was kind of suspecting Koth would turn to Bolas for help...
July 30, 2014 5:07 p.m.
lothshteth says... #27
Possible because he is underused as of late, but he was part of the Legacy so we've already been saturated. Walkers walk so anyone could show up.
July 30, 2014 5:08 p.m.
CommanderOfBolas says... #28
I am sure my bitch will be back for the set that focuses on both dragons and a walker heavily involved with him (my bitch being Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker , of course)
-Fulcrum says... #2
Refer to Khans of Tarkir SDCC 2014 for most of the information from SDCC.
I imagine you are right. I doubt WotC is going to be predictable in their storytelling.
July 30, 2014 4:55 a.m.