Tamiyo, Field Researcher
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Posted on July 1, 2016, 12:53 p.m. by Homura_Akemi
The new Tamiyo was spoiled today and her ultimate is SO BROKEN.
Tamiyo, Field Researcher
1GWU
Planeswalker - Tamiyo
+1: Choose up to two target creatures. Until your next turn, whenever either of those creatures deals combat damage, you draw a card.
-2:Tap up to two target nonland permanents. They don't untap during their controller's next untap step.
-7: Draw three cards. You get an emblem with "You may cast nonland cards from your hand without paying their mana costs
4 Loyalty Counters
Combined with Coax from the Blind Eternities, Oath of Nissa, and Call the Gatewatch, this card will be INSANE in standard. Bant has already dominated standard, but with this, our last hope will really be black removal with Liliana. I can't even grasp how this will affect modern
T1 Hierarch, into T2 Geist/Courser into T3 Tammy seems pretty nuts in modern to me. You get Path, Serum, etc. You could top end with Gideon, Elspeth or Ojutai. Seems good to me. Play Coax for her Ult.
July 1, 2016 1:25 p.m. Edited.
Homura_Akemi says... #5
What was Wizards thinking when they made this?! I hope Liliana, the Last Hope will be even better.
July 1, 2016 1:36 p.m.
Whats bonkers about her? Pretty good ultimate but terrible on an empty board so only situationally powerful. Powerful nonetheless but has glaring flaws. That seems balanced to me.
July 1, 2016 2:17 p.m.
The general thinking seems to be that she's insane. She doesn't seem insane. Just fairly powerful.
July 1, 2016 2:38 p.m.
Omnimystic says... #10
She's going to put some work in for some Modern play, that's for sure.
July 1, 2016 2:42 p.m.
I like her synergy with Narset Transcendent. She's by no means busted. She's definitely good. Bant walkers is strong with Nissa, Voice of Zendikar, Gideon, Ally of Zendikar, Narset Transcendent, and Jace, Unraveler of Secrets. Can splash into Nahiri, the Harbinger and Sorin, Grim Nemesis too.
The curve of Oath of Nissa into (insert relevant and strong 
drop here - Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
Flip maybe) into Call the Gatewatch into Tamiyo does seem pretty strong.
July 1, 2016 2:45 p.m.
CanadianShinobi says... #12
I'm skeptical of Modern play, because right now she lacks a suitable and solid home. Her presence alone will not make Bant Control a thing. At least, I'm skeptical that it will. She's good, no doubt.
July 1, 2016 2:46 p.m.
lol she's going to be countered and Dreadbored and Bolted and beaten to death in Modern. She's not quite that strong.
July 1, 2016 2:46 p.m.
I think her and The shadows Jace could have a bit of synergy in a deck. It would be fun to make a Tamiyo-Jace clue deck, I think
July 1, 2016 2:47 p.m.
All I'm looking at right now is Bant Superfriends with Doubling Season -- Not exactly competitive, but still. With the on-colour oaths, seems a waste not to try.
July 1, 2016 3:04 p.m.
Economically, I think she'll settle at about $7 - $11. I agree with ChiefBell; She's not stupid powerful, but she has perks, such as being the 1st Bant walker.
July 1, 2016 3:15 p.m.
Keep in mind her ability can target any creature. So if your opponent happens to land one you didn't counter or kill, you will draw cards. I think she will settle around $15-$20
July 1, 2016 3:18 p.m.
Her first two abilities are really good but her ultimate is really situational. She reminds me of the flip jace in that aspect
July 1, 2016 3:26 p.m.
Shes really not that great I dont see her making an impact in anything even EDH. She is WAY to slow for standard, shes not impactful enough in modern, and there are slightly better things in EDH although she would make a nice addition to a bant edh deck.
July 1, 2016 4:12 p.m.
shinobigarth says... #22
She has no protection so she'll just get smashed in the face with all the creatures. All of them.
July 1, 2016 4:57 p.m.
Yeah. She starts at 4 which puts her out of bolt range, but if she has to defend against an aggro horde, she has to -2, which puts her at 2. That puts her in the range of A LOT of different removal spells. And only stopping two creatures still doesn't guarantee her safety.
Her control and tempo game especially are strong, but she's an investment to keep protected.
Her greatest weakness is being something you have to focus the deck on. Especially in Modern. In Standard she can remain a little more self-sufficient, but still needs protected. Her mana cost is also kind of a struggle in Standard.
July 1, 2016 5:09 p.m. Edited.
In bant edh, she pay 4 draw up to 2 at the worse, if doubling season is on field she ults immediately and you play a bunch of stuff. So as a primarily EDH player, I say she works in EDH and will want at least 1, maybe 3 (depends on how the 4 color commanders turn out to be).
July 1, 2016 5:28 p.m.
I'm with ChiefBell. I actually don't think she'll see much play anywhere.
July 1, 2016 5:50 p.m.
TMBRLZ, personally not a huge fan of Tamiyon but I think thats because I'm sick of bant
Playing the devils advocate here, but wasn't that reason you gave the same reason why nahiri "wouldn't see play", and is now a powerhouse in jeskai control? Nahiri starts on 4, her -2 deals with only 1 creature permanently, not 2 temporarily, nahiri's +1 draws cards, downside being discard, tamiyo draws potentially more cards, downside is having targets on the field, and both ultimates have the potential to win the game
Only difference is the fact that tamiyo takes one more turn to ult, and obviously the colour specifications
July 1, 2016 7:22 p.m.
bennybubbles says... #27
I equally like this and dislike this. She's going to go straight in my modern superfriends with doubling season, where she will be amazing. However, I feel like 3 colour planeswalkers are something that shouldn't be done often, and we've just seen Sarkhan as a 3 colour.
Nicol Bolas is 3 colour because he is an elder dragon and crazy old, therefore experienced enough to use 3 colours of mana (justified). Sarkhan has gone through much in his life, going back and forth between sanity (
) and insanity (
) until he saved Ugin, shook off his madness and begun to experience clarity of mind like never before (justified). Ajani (if he can be really called 3 colour) went through a period of rage after his brother Jazal was murdered, but upon discovering his killer, Ajani abandoned his quest for vengeance. On Theros, Ajani took it upon himself to mentor Elspeth, and doing so made him green aligned for a time (Justified).
If someone has a story and flavour reason as to why Tamiyo can suddenly become 3 colour, I would be glad to hear it. Obviously we haven't seen the entirety of the EMN story and so I of course may change my opinion before Kaladesh is released, but that is how I see things at present.
July 1, 2016 9:38 p.m.
DarkMagician says... #28
This is not viable in a competitive modern environment. Sorry folks.
July 1, 2016 10:55 p.m.
Omnimystic says... #29
Can't wait to lose to all of your amazing decks! :D I'll probably be using this still.
July 2, 2016 8:49 a.m.
DarkMagician, I neither disagree nor agree, as I genuinely don't know, but why won't it? Any justification, or is your word what the format warps around? Just curious
July 2, 2016 9:19 a.m.
Homura_Akemi says... #31
Is it just me or does Tamiyo seem more Esper than Bant?
July 2, 2016 10:09 a.m.
shinobigarth says... #32
Miist Tamiyo is worse at protecting herself, worse at drawing and ult takes longer. Nahiri lets you find and put out your wincon (old Emmy anyone?), Tamiyo lets you play it free only if you have it in hand. simply put, Nahiri affects the board quicker.
July 2, 2016 11:42 a.m. Edited.
Actually nahiri is not that good at protecting herself nor does she affect the board basically at all unless she minus' to exile a creature the reason shes better in modern is because she can ult a lot faster and goes up by 2 every time shes plused.
July 2, 2016 11:58 a.m.
shinobigarth says... #34
hence she affects the board quicker. you get your wincon out faster. she can get rid of a big threat permanently which Tamiyo cant. all i'm saying is there's more reason for her to see modern play than Tamiyo.
July 2, 2016 12:05 p.m.
No that has nothing to do with affecting the board affecting the board means changing the board state she poses a bigger threat maybe but doesnt affect the board.
July 2, 2016 12:11 p.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #36
I would like to put this new Tamiyo into my green/white/blue EDH deck, but, before I do that, I am wondering: what types of reactions will she provoke from her controller's opponents? To me, she seems to be more of a utility planeswalker than a direct offense planeswalker, so I imagine that she will not be akin to planeswalkers such as Nicol Bolas, Ugin, or Karn, who are very powerful and must be dealt with immediately, or they shall quickly turn the tide of the game in favor of their controller.
July 15, 2016 12:22 a.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #37
I forgot to say that I am displeased that her emblem does not allow her controller to cast spells from places other than their hand without paying their mana costs, but she would likely be too powerful if that were the case.
Jay says... #2
Standard and EDH, yes. This will be a big deal. I don't see it in Modern, though. Just seems like it's too slow/doesn't protect itself well enough. But yes, good card overall.
July 1, 2016 12:58 p.m.