Rivals of Ixalan Spoilers
Spoilers, Rumors, and Speculation forum
Posted on Oct. 30, 2017, 12:46 p.m. by LittleBlueHero
Early Spoilers are in!
Discuss!
Takes me to Dragons of Tarkir days.
Dragons in every colour = win
November 29, 2017 8:04 a.m.
LittleBlueHero says... #3
Hoping for a legendary blue Plesiosaur with some form of "Nessie" in its name :)
November 29, 2017 9:45 a.m.
Speculation on Gishath, Sun's Avatar re-appearing as a five color Dinosaur Avatar? Or is the change from Avatar to Elder Dinosaur just a flavor change made mid-set?
November 29, 2017 4:12 p.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #5
Based on the artwork from the two revealed so far I would speculate that these Elder Dinosaurs are farther down on the evolutionary chain than Gishath, Sun's Avatar and thus wouldn't fall under his 'lordship' if you want to call it that. If you look at both Tetzimoc and Ghalta you can see that neither have feathers and to me they look more like what I would call a 'classic' dinosaur.
In fact, I bet the situation would be more akin to what happened on Dominaria with the Primeval Dragons like Rith, the Awakener. Once they awoke they began taking control of the dragons on the plane. I doubt that is WoTC intent for the story though. They probably just wanted to say, these specific dinosaurs are really old and have been hanging out in Orazca while the world outside has changed.
November 29, 2017 5:55 p.m.
I like that Dinos have evolved into tasty mini dinosaurs, called chickens.
I would love to see a Legendary, tasty chicken.
November 30, 2017 6:39 a.m.
Argy Wizards design team better get on that or I riot.
November 30, 2017 7:42 a.m.
Chickens ARE Dinosaurs.
Tasty evolved Dinosaurs.
This just needs the subtype Dinosaur, and it is perfect.
November 30, 2017 5:32 p.m.
There ya go.
Get on it, Wizards R&D.
Would buy ten booster boxes.
I ate ten buffalo wings at a place called Pluckers in Austin, Texas this year.
Their memory makes my brain glad.
November 30, 2017 6:50 p.m. Edited.
Lunatics! I'd tell you what. Needs to be much more dinosaurs that are RED, GREEN, and/or WHITE! No chickens.
November 30, 2017 6:54 p.m.
That would have been one of General Ironbeak's minions.
He will not be happy.
Expect to see a squadron of beaks heading your way soon.
December 1, 2017 3:53 a.m. Edited.
Dredge4life says... #18
https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/redwall/images/d/dc/Generalironbeak.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20131225000559
This General Ironbeak?
December 3, 2017 6:13 p.m.
Dredge4life says... #20
But hes General Ironbeak.
Anyone else notice the apostrophe doesnt work, or is it just me?
December 3, 2017 6:30 p.m.
Suns_Champion says... #21
Dredge4life props to you friend! Correctly pointing out where I got the name from! I'm impressed!
But there's a new General now....
December 3, 2017 7:12 p.m.
Suns_Champion what happened to the awesome image of the REAL General Ironbeak?
If you put it up again I'll copy and host it, so it doesn't go astray
December 4, 2017 2:15 a.m.
Suns_Champion says... #24
Why was the image gone??? Some one trying to silence the good name of General Ironbeak, no doubt!
December 4, 2017 7:25 a.m.
Lame_Duck it does feel like they dropped the ball on The Immortal Sun. While I like the upgrades from Caged Sun, why was The Immortal Sun not made a flip card? If the theme of this set is exploration and treasure it would make sense for there to be a Quest for the Immortal Sun legendary enchantment.
December 4, 2017 5:17 p.m.
Probably because if it becomes a land it is vulnerable to Field of Ruin
December 4, 2017 8:41 p.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #29
I think The Immortal Sun is only better than Caged Sun in 2+ color decks. I would still play Caged Sun over The Immortal Sun in a mono-colored deck. The PW's ability is extremely meta dependent, both pump creatures the same, and the mana acceleration from Caged Sun is MUCH better than the cost reduction. The only 'upgrade' is the card draw ability IMO.
I agree though, a flip card would've been cooler/more flavorful.
I just am excited about the card because after someone pointed it out to me, I can't un-see the Azorius symbol. So ya know, maybe Azor is still alive and kicking or at least did something on Ixalan before the mending?
December 5, 2017 12:27 a.m.
AgentGreen says... #30
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor Storywise how significant is that for Jace IF its confirmed that the Immortal Sun is linked to the Azorius guild. Could that be the key for Jace to give up his role as the Living Guildpact?
As for the card itself; in a meta where Abrade is still king, it's a risky investment that doesn't cause a big enough splash to be worth it.
And just a side note guys, this is the prize on the plane, why isn't that a Story Spotlight card?
December 5, 2017 8:21 a.m.
One of my friends asked me the other day what on earth is happening with the Guilds, now that the Living Guildpact is stranded on Ixalan.
I had no good answer.
December 5, 2017 10:10 a.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #32
AgentGreen and Argy, that would be a pretty cool way to tie things back to Ravnica for sure. Plus the recent story before Ixalan has been alluding to something big going down on that Ravnica. Honestly, if a return to Dominaria wasn't already confirmed I would have guessed we were going back to Ravnica after this set haha.
December 5, 2017 11:52 a.m.
AgentGreen says... #33
Polygon has a preview of Rivals, including the two walker cards from the Planeswalker decks. Agrath and mono-black Vraska
December 5, 2017 6:18 p.m.
Suns_Champion says... #34
Here's the Link: https://www.polygon.com/2017/12/5/16738902/magic-the-gatherings-rivals-of-ixalan-exclusive-new-cards-art
When are they gonna just print a 'walker with "-10: you win the game"?
December 5, 2017 6:30 p.m. Edited.
AgentGreen says... #35
That's simply the PW deck Vraska
But making her mono-black?
December 5, 2017 7:26 p.m.
Suns_Champion says... #36
Good point.
In case anyone missed it all of those cards are from the planeswalker decks.
Yeah the change to mono black confuses me. And the title "Scheming Gorgon". Weren't they pushing her as the rare sorta-good-guy with black in her color identity? Inti-hero perhaps? This just makes her look like your average evil villain. I feel like dropping the green does an injustice to her character.
But it is only the PW deck. Maybe I'm overthinking this.
December 5, 2017 7:45 p.m.
Suns_Champion,
Thanks much!
All,
Here's the link, including a few spoilers from the Planeswalker decks and a bunch of artwork. I especially like the Angrath one:
But the most interesting part for me was this quote from the article itself:
"We also introduced six legendary Elder Dinosaurs who evolved separately from the colorful-feathered dinosaurs of the plane."
So i wonder what the sixth is going to be ... Colorless? 5-color? Another Naya Dinosaur?
December 5, 2017 11:17 p.m.
There was a Colourless Dragon in DTK.
Minotaur + flamelash = LOOK OUT!!
December 6, 2017 1:21 p.m. Edited.
AgentGreen says... #39
New spoiler active:
Brass's Bounty
Sorcery
For each land you control, create a colorless Treasure artifact token with "T, Sacrifice this artifact: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool."
December 7, 2017 4:29 p.m.
Suns_Champion says... #41
Yeah, not particularly exciting, even for commander. May find it's way into some Neheb, the Eternal decks though.
December 7, 2017 5:18 p.m.
I can't find a way to justify its use in any format tbh
December 7, 2017 6:51 p.m.
Idk, maybe there's some way to build a ramp deck with Revel in Riches?
December 7, 2017 8:11 p.m.
Since it has a symbol in it I refuse to even try and build a deck with it lol
(I really hate red in magic)
December 7, 2017 8:13 p.m.
MagicalHacker says... #48
I am totally okay with people neutering their own potential by not being open-minded to try new things.
That said, I'd only run this in a deck that specifically wants lots of treasure, like with the aforementioned Revel in Riches.
December 7, 2017 9:28 p.m.
I get bored with red decks really quick. If I build one I would just dismantle it within a week, and Im poor and don't have money to waste on something Ill play for a week (I also don't play standard much due to my money issues)
FIGHT ME BRO
ESPER IS MY RELIGION, RED IS MY ENEMY
December 8, 2017 7:49 a.m.
Dredge4life says... #50
Im ready. Lets duel. Even if you win, Ill just regenerate. All to uphold the honour of the actual General Ironbeak. Not that bizarre chicken guy.
_Delta_ says... #1
There most certainly will be a elder for each colour. I cannot see how they wouldn't do a full legendary cycle.
November 28, 2017 9:48 p.m.